Micah, Denon has several that can play both wide and heights at the same time. The 4810 can do it natively and the lower 33/4300 series can do it with external amps.

There are still no receivers/pre-pros which can have Surround-Rears, Wides, and Heights active at the same time though, right? Those Denons which can do Wides and Heights at the same time, do so at the sacrifice of the Surround-Backs?

The Denon 4810 can do 11.3 including surround backs with one outboard amp

That's really cool, thanks.

Finally got a SEC to play with the 180 and I emphasize just a sec. Got home from the beach at 8 hooked it up and watched the opening scence of toy story 2 then the boy had to go to bed, so can't wait till tomorrow. So far. I LIKIE!!!

I see you wasted no time upgrading your sig

Yeah, he could have had at least another sec listening to the 180.

Scott

I figured it was time to update the signature. I knew I wouldn't be sending this 180 back!

Have you listened to them any more?

Thanks Micah, no there aren't any bass traps in the rear of the room due to the layout of the back wall but I do like what they do along the front wall ... covering up my crooked ass drywall work!