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#311269 - 06/23/10 12:47 AM Re: VP180 [Re: pmbuko]
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OK, my mistake. I thought the composition of the driver had changed.
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#311272 - 06/23/10 01:58 AM Re: VP180 [Re: fredk]
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Not between the most recent black and aluminium ones and the all aluminium ones.
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#311277 - 06/23/10 06:53 AM Re: VP180 - ATMOSPHERIC ANGST [Re: BlueJays1]
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The "new" woofers with aluminum dustcaps are functionally identical to the black dustcap version used in the V2 series models, so they can be swapped out directly. For this reason we will be keeping a stockpile of black dustcaps in order to replace drivers for service purposes.

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 Originally Posted By: Dr.House
 Originally Posted By: htnut
Well, for anyone interested in a VP180 with BLACK caps, I know for a fact that the white capped drivers can be swapped for the black capped ones without any issue.


Yes. But it is a matter of Axiom deciding to continue to manufacture and supply them or not and for how long (till they run out of current inventory???). That is what is not clear at this point.


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#311279 - 06/23/10 07:52 AM Re: VP180 - ATMOSPHERIC ANGST [Re: Andrew]
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This is great news!

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#311280 - 06/23/10 07:58 AM Re: VP180 - ATMOSPHERIC ANGST [Re: BlueJays1]
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Ok, so I'm assuming us older ti guys are going to be swapping cross overs too. If so, I don't mind doing some soldering. I'm probably going to change to the new ones now as I'm sure it will be inevitable in the future. Thanks for all the info.


Edited by kmcalvano (06/23/10 08:05 AM)
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#311282 - 06/23/10 08:16 AM Re: VP180 - ATMOSPHERIC ANGST [Re: kmcalvano]
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 Originally Posted By: kmcalvano
Ok, so I'm assuming us older ti guys are going to be swapping cross overs too. If so, I don't mind doing some soldering. I'm probably going to change to the new ones now as I'm sure it will be inevitable in the future. Thanks for all the info.


I can see costs escalating if you are swapping both the crossovers and woofers. It might not be that cost effective of a solution for such an older version. The crossover is substantial on the M80. Depending how much experience you have with a soldering iron and taking apart speakers without damaging the finish, it can be a lot of work as well.
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#311288 - 06/23/10 09:46 AM Re: VP180 - ATMOSPHERIC ANGST [Re: BlueJays1]
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Actually, I think it would be fun if Axiom offered a kit that would allow me to replace the drivers and crossovers in my system... essentially going from Ti models to V3s without purchasing new cabinets, the downtime of shipping them back and forth and the costs of shipping the cabinets.

Some downloadable (.PDF) instructions and a little time with a soldering gun would provide for some renewed "pride of ownership" in addition to the refined sound and updated looks as well.
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#311291 - 06/23/10 10:02 AM Re: VP180 - ATMOSPHERIC ANGST [Re: MarkSJohnson]
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Somebody was given a price quote a while back for the VP150 crossover including shipping costs and it was around $70 IIRC. The M80 crossover will be more expensive than that and multiply that by 2. I'm not sure what they charge for drivers including shipping but lets say an average cost of $35 per 5.25"/6.25" driver to keeps things simple. The 5.25" being estimated less than $35 and the 6.25" estimated as more than $35.

If you do the math for the M80 with a crossover X 2 and woofers X 8 you are looking at a pretty hefty cost involved for the upgrade and this is probably a low ball estimate.
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#311300 - 06/23/10 11:06 AM Re: VP180 - ATMOSPHERIC ANGST [Re: BlueJays1]
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Dr.House,

Since we manufacture our own drivers there is no issue with running out of woofers with the old dust caps. We can easily make a few with the black dust caps anytime.
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#311301 - 06/23/10 11:20 AM Re: VP180 - ATMOSPHERIC ANGST [Re: MarkSJohnson]
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 Originally Posted By: MarkSJohnson
Actually, I think it would be fun if Axiom offered a kit that would allow me to replace the drivers and crossovers in my system... essentially going from Ti models to V3s without purchasing new cabinets, the downtime of shipping them back and forth and the costs of shipping the cabinets.

Some downloadable (.PDF) instructions and a little time with a soldering gun would provide for some renewed "pride of ownership" in addition to the refined sound and updated looks as well.


A thread discussing this might provide some traction for those interested in upgrading their speakers and who feel confident in their abilities to perform the upgrade. As already mentioned, it could be quite costly and labor intensive depending on the model of speaker a person has.


Edited by michael_d (06/23/10 11:22 AM)
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