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#328063 - 11/11/10 11:06 AM Re: Audioholics Ultimate Subwoofer Shootout [Re: izzygodenov]
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Jinjunku has a hate on.
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#328066 - 11/11/10 11:39 AM Re: Audioholics Ultimate Subwoofer Shootout [Re: Adrian]
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kind of an impossible senario...

review sites, with one noticable expection, have to rely on the advertising income of the folks they critique.

I'm, sorry, but I don't like what appears to be a retaliatory response from axiom. If you didn't like the testing method, bow out - but why take your toys and go home entirely?

If it wasn't for audioholics - I would have never even have heard of axiom, or obviously have a whole bunch of your stuff.

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#328067 - 11/11/10 11:45 AM Re: Audioholics Ultimate Subwoofer Shootout [Re: axiomoholic]
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You guys have one side of the story. That's all. You don't know what really happened, I don't know what really happened, and frankly, it should have stayed between Axiom and Audioholics.
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#328069 - 11/11/10 12:09 PM Re: Audioholics Ultimate Subwoofer Shootout [Re: Adrian]
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You must be one of the regulars at Club Polk.

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#328070 - 11/11/10 12:15 PM Re: Audioholics Ultimate Subwoofer Shootout [Re: Adrian]
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Originally Posted By: Adrian
Jinjunku has a hate on.


What do you want me to make of a company pulling it's flagship product from a multi-product comparison and then even pull advertising?

AH isn't the bad guy here, neither was Ilkaa, neither was HomeTheaterShack. Some here are acting like AH is the bad actor here in their desire to test and compare. Really?

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#328072 - 11/11/10 12:33 PM Re: Audioholics Ultimate Subwoofer Shootout [Re: izzygodenov]
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As mentioned it should have stayed between Axiom and AH. I don't see the hundreds of other subwoofer co's that 'could' have sent their products to this comparison getting slagged in public by AH moderators(with the exception of MikeC). There's obviously a disagreement here between the two operations which will benefit neither....should have been resolved between THEM, not through public forums.
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#328073 - 11/11/10 12:47 PM Re: Audioholics Ultimate Subwoofer Shootout [Re: Adrian]
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Originally Posted By: Adrian
As mentioned it should have stayed between Axiom and AH. I don't see the hundreds of other subwoofer co's that 'could' have sent their products to this comparison getting slagged in public by AH moderators(with the exception of MikeC). There's obviously a disagreement here between the two operations which will benefit neither....should have been resolved between THEM, not through public forums.


I would have to disagree. Manufacturers were all beneficiaries of the testing methodology before signing on. I believe as a courtesy they were given the results of their sub before publication so they could comment or make suggestions. Not ask for their product back or threaten to get attorneys involved.

There is a piece of critical information that shouldn't be overlooked: If a manufacturer doesn't have faith in their product, why should I?

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#328074 - 11/11/10 01:05 PM Re: Audioholics Ultimate Subwoofer Shootout [Re: izzygodenov]
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You're making assumptions.
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#328075 - 11/11/10 01:13 PM Re: Audioholics Ultimate Subwoofer Shootout [Re: MarkSJohnson]
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Originally Posted By: MarkSJohnson
You're making assumptions.


What would you like me to make of it? Cookies?

I only have a few pieces of information to work with here:

1. All manufacturers knew the testing methodology going in
2. Manufacturers would be given a pre-publication report on their sub
3. Some manufacturers after the fact pulled their product and in one case pulled all adverts, and another threatened legal action
4. There are still a list of very notable names that didn't take this approach.

Based on that what conclusion should a person come to?

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#328076 - 11/11/10 01:22 PM Re: Audioholics Ultimate Subwoofer Shootout [Re: izzygodenov]
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Axiom never submitted a sub. They declined after being informed of the testing methodology.

It is also an assumption that advertising was pulled as a direct reaction to this test. The two may be completely unrelated.
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