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#349352 - 05/29/11 02:47 AM Re: Help a newbie with deciding m60s m80s [Re: JohnK]
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How is that not enjoying music. I dont need to be sitting in a sealed room to enjoy my music. (home theatre is a different situation)

I have countless time with my wife and I along with a few other couple sitting by the lake on our deck trying to "ENJOY" music at levels in the room sound distorted (150ft away). All I want is to hear the music clear while doing this without us all sitting there saying what song is this. (Thought spending 8 grand on a system would get me there.)

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#349353 - 05/29/11 02:50 AM Re: Help a newbie with deciding m60s m80s [Re: Nitsud]
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I state this in saying I dont want to add an out door system on my deck but get close to out door sound.

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#349354 - 05/29/11 02:53 AM Re: Help a newbie with deciding m60s m80s [Re: Nitsud]
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Really, you're probably better suited adding outdoor speakers. 150ft is a LONG way to go for any home speakers. But if you want it that loud, John's right, you need big honking amps. That certainly changes the equation. I wouldn't be worrying about crosstalk, I'd be worrying about maximum watts.
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#349355 - 05/29/11 03:12 AM Re: Help a newbie with deciding m60s m80s [Re: Ken.C]
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I wish I could have out door speakers (really really do would make things easy) but this is not the case. However my "WIFE" has a train of thought along with budget that Im not messing with. I just messured exactly and from living room to edge of the furthest chair from the furthest speaker is 86 ft.

Again my 4 level split has a width of 16" with a wall between the livng room and the kitchen (following the outside door and deck) this wall cover half the width west to east (system is setup on the westward wall with the deck door in the northward postion.

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#349356 - 05/29/11 03:16 AM Re: Help a newbie with deciding m60s m80s [Re: Nitsud]
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My property line is about an extra 80 feet past the 86ft.. Without say 1000w amps say a 500w dual on the fronts and a mono 300-350 on a center (even though I would probally not use for stereo) Is this going to give me close to a loud enough level without damage and per say too much power for movies.

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#349365 - 05/29/11 01:15 PM Re: Help a newbie with deciding m60s m80s [Re: Nitsud]
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If you are ever in Calgary I can let you listen to my PB 13 Ultra and M80 system to help you decide on what to get.
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#349366 - 05/29/11 01:38 PM Re: Help a newbie with deciding m60s m80s [Re: Nitsud]
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Originally Posted By: Nitsud
What no one has really set me at easy on is that in stereo I would like to turn these babies up loud enough to hear outside on my deck with no problems. Or bringing the entire sytstem outside to blast in an open range setting.

I have the same issue in our place. I do not have (and really we do not want) outdoor speakers on our patio, but i can open up two windows and turn up the volume on our main floor system to attain the adequate volume outside so we can enjoy music while out back.
To do this, a normal receiver was inadequate, but the Anthem MCA30 amp (about 200w / ch) has been sufficient.
Indoors at 10' distance i've measured the SPL around 108-110dB (using Tannoy Definition D700 speakers) while the SPL drops out on the deck to about 80dB.

Don't let anyone tell you that this isn't enjoying music!
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#349371 - 05/29/11 03:22 PM Re: Help a newbie with deciding m60s m80s [Re: Nitsud]
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Originally Posted By: Nitsud
My property line is about an extra 80 feet past the 86ft.. Without say 1000w amps say a 500w dual on the fronts and a mono 300-350 on a center (even though I would probally not use for stereo) Is this going to give me close to a loud enough level without damage and per say too much power for movies.
Never too much power for movies, unless you are outside as well, since you control the power entering the speakers with that little thing called volume control and in a closer listening levels a HT environment brings you just wouldn't have to turn the volume up as much as you do for outside listening.

I would certainly be entertaining seperate amps to run the M80s for the outside listening levels you desire and I would move the M80's onto the deck/patio if at all possible. I have run my M80s outside on my deck a few times and it's great.
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#349380 - 05/29/11 09:14 PM Re: Help a newbie with deciding m60s m80s [Re: jakewash]
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Thank you all. Im thinking of the 2 channel and the mono. Then do some comparing to how they sound to me. Will give me some insight for how to proceed when I get my surrounds. I can always move the amps around and what not.

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#350084 - 06/13/11 12:37 AM Re: Help a newbie with deciding m60s m80s [Re: Nitsud]
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With the help from my wifey we received and now sent back the upa-1s and kept the xpa-2. Also purchasing the xpa-3 for the remaining 3 speakers.

Still waitting ever so patiently for my funkywaves 15.3 to be built and shipped... Looking like next week.

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