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#358693 - 11/15/11 10:11 AM Re: Advice on speakers and set-up w/ high WAF [Re: TriggerHappy]
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Edit: I see you got your link working, so I am removing my copy of your pic.


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#358695 - 11/15/11 10:12 AM Re: Advice on speakers and set-up w/ high WAF [Re: TriggerHappy]
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Aha!

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#358696 - 11/15/11 10:20 AM Re: Advice on speakers and set-up w/ high WAF [Re: Murph]
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That is a tight space on the right.
I think the best you can do is somehow convince your wife that a wall mounted speaker on the right doesn't look to bad in order to get the sound roughly anchored to your TV instead of tempting your brain to look to the left all the time. Leave the left tight to the TV as well to center the sound.

Your couch is pretty close to the TV so I don't think you need 'louder' speakers for that position anyways. If you like the sound from your current ones, then play with the mounting location idea before buying new ones. If you are still not happy with the sound then upgrading is always fun.

If you are like me, and often play music via BRs and DVDs and like to listen in places other than just the couch, then you may find other models that pump it throughout the larger space better but again, I'd say one step at a time. Just get a wall bracket that will work with the much larger M22s if you think you may still go there but personally, and I hate to say it, I think a wall mounted M22 in that corner may indeed look very much out of place.

If you stick with the smaller speakers, moving it to the right on it's current stand looks like it 'just' works. Better than both off to the left, anyways.
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#358697 - 11/15/11 10:38 AM Re: Advice on speakers and set-up w/ high WAF [Re: Murph]
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Originally Posted By: Murph
That is a tight space on the right.
I think the best you can do is somehow convince your wife that a wall mounted speaker on the right doesn't look to bad in order to get the sound roughly anchored to your TV instead of tempting your brain to look to the left all the time. Leave the left tight to the TV as well to center the sound.


Murph, just to clarify, I am not going to use the speakers for the TV...just for music. Am mulling over a couple of options:

1) M22 on/in wall mounted above and either side of the fireplace...will need to look into getting and positioning a sub and what impacts there with not having a cross-over embedded in the amp.

the idea is to get a set of speakers that would sound full or at least full-er when entertaining, or when in the kitchen prepping meals... and that does have nice audiofile capabilities when I and my wife have time to sit and relax on the coach with a glass of wine.

2) would involve in-cabinet M80s but I would then need to extend the wall and shorten the entertainment nook, move the TV to above the FP, etc, etc... I am trying to avoid option 2!




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#358698 - 11/15/11 10:38 AM Re: Advice on speakers and set-up w/ high WAF [Re: Murph]
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i tried to delete this post, but did not get permission. :-)


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#358699 - 11/15/11 10:43 AM Re: Advice on speakers and set-up w/ high WAF [Re: Murph]
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Ahh, I should have really re-read your first post carefully.

The M22s should fill (for lack of a better term) your space nicely.

Another option to improve the musical sound in the rest of the room might be to add a second set of speakers further back in the room. For movies, they could serve as surround sound speakers. (Oops you said no movies) When playing music, you could switch your receiver to a 5 or 7 Channel Stereo Mode, if it has one. When in this mode, it sends the front left and right stereo channels to all of the left & right speakers equally. So it's like having another stereo set up in the back of the room. Great for parties when everyone is wandering around all over the place.

Again though, I think this might be overkill for most people unless you have a HUGE room. I'm obviously just too bored on this conference call and your suffering the result.


Edited by Murph (11/15/11 10:48 AM)
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#358702 - 11/15/11 11:20 AM Re: Advice on speakers and set-up w/ high WAF [Re: Murph]
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I'm a little confused. (How typical)

1) Are you going to be using the main L/R speakers for Stereo music only and never for the TV?

2) Are you only going to be using the built in TV speakers for movies?

3) This wall does not look optimal for a home theater setup. Is there another wall that would be better suited? Either in this room, or another.

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#358703 - 11/15/11 11:33 AM Re: Advice on speakers and set-up w/ high WAF [Re: Murph]
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Murph, thanks for the suggestion.. the Sonos has a speaker amp combo called the zone 5 which I can and am using to have music in other rooms (very handy little device!). It annoys me that at half-volume that little box pumps out more music than my ProAcs (great speakers - wrong room!

The more I am think though the on wall mount would look odd above and either side of the fire place plus I think would lift the sound stage too much for music listening.

Third option is now the M22 book shelf on the existing stands... maybe if I run the speaker cable in-wall to the back of the speaker that would help with the WAF. And add a sub-woofer in the corner by the Piano.

Anyone have any idea how the Bookshelf M22 sound with minimal space between them and the wall? I know with the ProAcs it amplifies the base but diminishes the sound stage substantially.

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#358705 - 11/15/11 12:14 PM Re: Advice on speakers and set-up w/ high WAF [Re: TriggerHappy]
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i think i remember Brent or Alan saying that the M60's only need an inch or 2 of space between the ports and a wall. I would assume the M22's would need even less space?

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#358706 - 11/15/11 12:18 PM Re: Advice on speakers and set-up w/ high WAF [Re: dakkon]
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I would remove the mirror and mount the tv above the fireplace, you want the speakers to the left/right of the picture.
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