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#358770 - 11/16/11 12:12 PM Re: Got Wood? [Re: MarkSJohnson]
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MURPH! Your order's in!

Where do you want us to put those road-to-hell "good intention" pavers?
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#358771 - 11/16/11 01:01 PM Re: Got Wood? [Re: MarkSJohnson]
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Thanks Bob,
Great advice there. I definitely don't want any "eww" coloring.

In a larger piece like a table or a headboard, the changing color would look very nice but in the thinner strips for the frame, it will look out of place.

I think I'll show her some dyed (thanks for that hint too)scraps where there is a sharp band of contrasting colors and let her decide. I have some old Wood Essence, Bordeaux colored dye from a corner table this spring. (Don't laugh, it's what they wanted.) It's close to the color she wants and will let her see the effect.

Yes, life would be simpler if we didn't let the customer/friend decide what they wanted. It would be great if I had as much knowledge as you then I could at least try to lean them in the right direction before I'm half way into it, but I'm just a newb who says yes to anything because I really enjoy building stuff.

And Mark,
She is certainly not uncute, but technically it is for her daughter who is also not uncute but is underage.


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#358775 - 11/16/11 02:02 PM Re: Got Wood? [Re: Murph]
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Originally Posted By: Murph
I definitely don't want any "eww" coloring.


Bob just really has a thing against orange-colored wood.

Don't you, Bob?

(Bob came up the other day and decided my orange-tinted tongue and groove in my kitchen has to go!) smile
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#358783 - 11/16/11 03:25 PM Re: Got Wood? [Re: MarkSJohnson]
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Ha! When we first bought our waterfront land we built a small cottage like house on it while we saved for what we really wanted. It also had had tongue in groove flooring that ended up much more orange than we wanted. Wasn't bad for a cottage type decor but I'll concur with Bob, it has to go.
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#358784 - 11/16/11 03:27 PM Re: Got Wood? [Re: Murph]
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I've always thought that it looked like it belonged in a cabin in Maine, but always felt it would be sacrilege to paint the wood. Plus, Joyce always liked it.

Now that Bob called it Orange, I think she'll be good with it going as well!
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#358797 - 11/16/11 06:16 PM Re: Got Wood? [Re: MarkSJohnson]
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I work with a lot of cherry. It's one of my favorite woods, and I would never stain it. The lighter sapwood is not considered a defect so there will usually be some on most boards. For something like a frame where the pieces you need are relatively narrow, just rip off the light sapwood and use it for firewood. Cherry with a natural finish like tung oil will darken over time to a beautiful rich color. If you try to stain the sapwood to match, the color won't change and eventually it will be very obviously different.
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#358817 - 11/17/11 09:46 AM Re: Got Wood? [Re: Joe_in_SC]
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Thanks Joe.

Your advice would be sound but sound I'd have to buy another 4 boardfeet of wood to avoid all the sapwood for this project and her budget is slim. That would be another $50 to $60 dollars. Had I been more experienced, I would have known to factor the waste into my original estimate. She is just paying for materials as I'm doing it just for fun. Live and learn.

I may have a working solution though. My sister-in -law is also a painter. I may paint this one (albeit a waste of nice cherry) and give it to her as a Christmas present and then build a second out of another wood more suitable for thin cuts of wood.
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#358818 - 11/17/11 09:47 AM Re: Got Wood? [Re: Murph]
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I would think it would depend on how you cut it. I happen to like multi-colored wood.
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#358825 - 11/17/11 10:57 AM Re: Got Wood? [Re: Joe_in_SC]
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Originally Posted By: Joe_in_Ct
I work with a lot of cherry. It's one of my favorite woods, and I would never stain it. The lighter sapwood is not considered a defect so there will usually be some on most boards. For something like a frame where the pieces you need are relatively narrow, just rip off the light sapwood and use it for firewood. Cherry with a natural finish like tung oil will darken over time to a beautiful rich color. If you try to stain the sapwood to match, the color won't change and eventually it will be very obviously different.


Right on, Joe! And cherry is uber UV sensitive. Leave a book there for a few months and you'll always know where it was.

Totally agree about coloring certain areas and not others showing as it ages, especially with chehwy, since it changes color so much over time.

Problem is that you're trying to match a particular existing wood color that she likes.
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#358827 - 11/17/11 11:02 AM Re: Got Wood? [Re: BobKay]
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Hey Bob-
What's that trick for darkening Cherry where you leave the wood enclosed with an open jar or dish of __________ ?
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