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#373404 - 04/14/12 08:53 PM Re: If you had the money... [Re: Shoie]
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I'm still hopeful for an ep800 some day.
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#373409 - 04/14/12 09:41 PM Re: If you had the money... [Re: Shoie]
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The dual vs-18.1's look very interesting. There are going in a "movie only" set-up. I'll have to see how much shipping to Ontario is. What about these vs. dual Epik Empires?
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#373411 - 04/14/12 10:55 PM Re: If you had the money... [Re: Shoie]
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Originally Posted By: Shoie
The dual vs-18.1's look very interesting. There are going in a "movie only" set-up. I'll have to see how much shipping to Ontario is. What about these vs. dual Epik Empires?


Dale Rasco from hometheatershack did a great review on dual VS-18's here:
http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/s...3-2-review.html

Just my subjective opinion, but dual empires would not stand a chance against the VS's...
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#374028 - 04/23/12 11:37 AM Re: If you had the money... [Re: Shoie]
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Looks like the winner are the HSU VTF-15H Dual Drives. Even with the crazy amount of money for shipping to Canada, these are coming in cheaper the the EP800. I'll also get to enjoy the benefit of dual subs!
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#374029 - 04/23/12 11:41 AM Re: If you had the money... [Re: Shoie]
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I'm sure you'll be very happy with those, and I look forward to reading your review!
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#374032 - 04/23/12 11:45 AM Re: If you had the money... [Re: Shoie]
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Originally Posted By: Shoie
Looks like the winner are the HSU VTF-15H Dual Drives. Even with the crazy amount of money for shipping to Canada, these are coming in cheaper the the EP800. I'll also get to enjoy the benefit of dual subs!


You also have to be careful with the additional brokerage and customs fees on these as well. If they ship by UPS, then the fees THEY charge are totally outrageous and on the verge of criminal and enough to perhaps make it NOT worth your while. For that reason alone, I try to avoid any shipper out of the US that ships via UPS. FedEx isn't that much better.

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#374040 - 04/23/12 01:19 PM Re: If you had the money... [Re: casey01]
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[quote=casey01You also have to be careful with the additional brokerage and customs fees on these as well. If they ship by UPS, then the fees THEY charge are totally outrageous and on the verge of criminal and enough to perhaps make it NOT worth your while. For that reason alone, I try to avoid any shipper out of the US that ships via UPS. FedEx isn't that much better. [/quote]
Indeed. For something like this, I would be tempted to ship to a UPS store or similar in Buffalo and take them across yourself.
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#374048 - 04/23/12 02:55 PM Re: If you had the money... [Re: Shoie]
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I know, it's pretty (really) bad, but HSU includes these fees as part of their quote. Although, shipping anything 300lbs this far can't be cheap. The only extra charge should be the duty. I wonder if Axiom deals with the same issues going from Canada into the USA?
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#374072 - 04/23/12 04:48 PM Re: If you had the money... [Re: Shoie]
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That's a good question, because it's suppose to be free trade....right. I like shipping USPS because Canada Post only charges HST, if that sometimes.

No tracking but it always makes it, and in better shape too.
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#374080 - 04/23/12 07:26 PM Re: If you had the money... [Re: Shoie]
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Originally Posted By: Shoie
I know, it's pretty (really) bad, but HSU includes these fees as part of their quote. Although, shipping anything 300lbs this far can't be cheap. The only extra charge should be the duty. I wonder if Axiom deals with the same issues going from Canada into the USA?


The way the law is "suppose" to be is if the item is when imported in to Canada, categorized and clearly shown on the box as being "Made in the USA", there should be no customs or import duties on the item, just maybe a minimal brokerage charge because it should clear almost automatically. The trouble with UPS is that they are still charging the same charges no matter what or where it is from. I ordered something from a company back a few years ago that was clearly marked as being "made in the USA" and cost $400.00 yet, UPS hit me with a brokerage fee of almost $160.00! They said it was a percentage of the value but I couldn't pinpoint down how they came up with the fee and they were hesitant to tell me. Unfortunately, when it gets in to large items like speakers, the postal service doesn't handle those so that only leaves essentially UPS or FedEx and it is a real scam.

Since Axiom is Made in Canada, I am not exactly sure and perhaps the guys here from the US could advise, but the same rules apply to a product manufactured domestically as opposed to being originally imported then shipped out. Minimal additional duties and/or taxes "should" apply.

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