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#385716 - 11/16/12 11:41 AM Outlaw Audio Model 975
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In case you didn't see, Outlaw Audio is finally releasing a processor:

Model 975 7.1 HDMI AV Surround Processor

Unusual to see a slimline, but I always wondered why they needed to be so tall without amps. The unit isn't what I'm looking for, but I like the reasonable price, the look, and I'm happy Outlaw was able to complete it. If they make a higher model with a little more robust feature set, multiple subwoofer outs, and balanced XLR connections, I'd consider them.
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#385717 - 11/16/12 12:01 PM Re: Outlaw Audio Model 975 [Re: CV]
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I saw that this morning and really like it. It reminds me of my old NAD preamp.

I'm not really in the market at the moment, but I would like to consider it and compare it's features (or lack of) when I'm ready for something new.
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#385719 - 11/16/12 12:14 PM Re: Outlaw Audio Model 975 [Re: CV]
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Yeah, timing is everything. I think the market passed that feature set already. I won't take the time to list all the functionality it lacks compared to my current or future needs, but hey, at least it has S-Video outputs. crazy

I'm sure there will be people who are pleased and who think it sounds fantastic. Good for them.

I think the market should (and will) gravitate towards FEWER things in one box. Or at least moving some of the features we currently see bundled into other places. I mean, why have the tuner in the processor? Didn't we know 40 years ago that having a separate chassis for that function was better and more flexible in almost every way? Who even uses a radio tuner nowadays? And why all the video processing when people who will care deeply about that (Mike...) already have access to cost-effective outboard units that are probably even better?

I don't know. I think "vision" would gravitate more towards network integration, multiple zones, multiple outputs, control via existing, ubiquitous hand-held platforms, etc.

Beyond alleged improvements in fidelity, why would anyone buy this thing? I'm not trying to be argumentative; I really want to know.
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#385721 - 11/16/12 12:20 PM Re: Outlaw Audio Model 975 [Re: CV]
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I had some of those thoughts too Tom. It will probably do what it does quiet well but it does not do enough to make it appeal to me.
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#385723 - 11/16/12 12:38 PM Re: Outlaw Audio Model 975 [Re: tomtuttle]
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Originally Posted By: tomtuttle

Beyond alleged improvements in fidelity, why would anyone buy this thing? I'm not trying to be argumentative; I really want to know.

I'm thinking exactly the opposite. What's it missing that would make me NOT want to buy it?
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#385724 - 11/16/12 12:39 PM Re: Outlaw Audio Model 975 [Re: CV]
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It's pretty light on HDMI inputs.

At least it's a sane price.


Edited by Ken.C (11/16/12 12:41 PM)
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#385725 - 11/16/12 12:43 PM Re: Outlaw Audio Model 975 [Re: CV]
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I know most receivers and processors have more, but I guess I'm thinking:
1- a good universal player (think Oppo that will also play my SADD and DVD-A discs)

2- TiVo

3- a 25' HDMI cable to plug in my laptop or tablet

4- Extra! Bonus connector which I don't even have now! smile
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#385726 - 11/16/12 12:44 PM Re: Outlaw Audio Model 975 [Re: CV]
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I think this piece would be awesome with 5 of their monoblocks.

Wait- Are the lights blue???
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#385727 - 11/16/12 12:53 PM Re: Outlaw Audio Model 975 [Re: CV]
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Oh, fine. You're going to make me do the analysis. wink

My frame of reference is my current receiver - an Onkyo TX-NR805 that is obviously not "recent".

Here are some things I already have and value that seem to be lacking on the Outlaw:
  • Zone 2/3 support
  • Zone 2 trigger
  • Audyssey MultiEQ XT

Here are some things I want my next switcher/processor to have:
  • multiple HDMI Outputs
  • more than 4 HDMI inputs
  • Dolby Loudness
  • Dolby EQ
  • Multiple subwoofer outputs
  • Network connectivity
  • Control via iPad or Android

Mark, you should just buy some vintage NAD separates for a non-HT system.
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#385728 - 11/16/12 01:01 PM Re: Outlaw Audio Model 975 [Re: CV]
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Admittedly, every consumer has different needs. However for me personally it lacks,
- Zone 2 support
- At least 2 HDMI outputs (TV & a projector in the adjoining room)

Also, although I don't have it now, my next device would require
- network conenctivity &
- iPad & Android remote control.

Although I personally didn't like the results for me, I find it odd that a new processor would not include some form of automated setup tool such as Audyssey.

Just my 2 cents while we can still find pennies around.
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#385731 - 11/16/12 01:53 PM Re: Outlaw Audio Model 975 [Re: CV]
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Hey, thanks, CV, for the post. I have the Outlaw 990/7125 combo, so I'm pretty much their target demographic for this unit.

I've been inactive at the Outlaw Saloon and off their email list for a while, so I hadn't heard. Thanks again, Northwest Lad!!!
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#385738 - 11/16/12 03:07 PM Re: Outlaw Audio Model 975 [Re: CV]
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It looks like it has everything I would need, except room correction processing, or some form of equalizer.

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#385748 - 11/16/12 06:38 PM Re: Outlaw Audio Model 975 [Re: CV]
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Looks good to me, and they did mention it didn't have some of cons mentioned above, for ex. Mult XT, which some bitch about anyway.
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#385796 - 11/17/12 10:13 PM Re: Outlaw Audio Model 975 [Re: CV]
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I tried flipping audyssy on and off. On I've bot better high end, sometimes too bright in female voice range. Off, too much bass, not enough highs.

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#385807 - 11/18/12 08:45 AM Re: Outlaw Audio Model 975 [Re: CV]
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Can you rig up your fronts so 14 of them have Audyssey engaged, while 12 of them have it turned off? grin
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#385808 - 11/18/12 09:17 AM Re: Outlaw Audio Model 975 [Re: CV]
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You hockey puck@!
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