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#38897 - 03/27/04 09:53 PM Would Axiom be the right sound for me?
Thasp Offline
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Registered: 03/27/04
Posts: 338
The 30 day money back guarantee is a safety net, so I'm not that afraid to get them and dislike them.

My tastes so far have been that I dislike Klipsch's floorstanding and bookshelf models, since they are not only bright, but seem to lack a midrange and bass depth I was expecting from speakers that weren't satelites. They were tinny. I don't need tons of bass, but a lot of the midrange and lower bass just wasn't there... tinny is the perfect word for what _I_ was hearing.

Athena's AS-F2 sounded close to perfect to me. A neutral sound, with just the right amount of midrange, bass, and treble. Nothing really sounded exaggerated through them.

I was considering factory outlet Axiom M60ti speakers with a Harman Kardon AVR230 receiver and to biwire them with some 12 guage cable.

Basically, I have heard many places that this is a bright speaker(thus the HK receiver I wanted to offset the brightness), which gives me the idea that these may have a tinny sound with bloated treble. What is your experience with this? I know I could always send them back, yet I'd prefer to know what kind of speaker I was getting before I order and decide to send back for being too bright/tinny. Should I expect a superior nicer sound to the Athenas with my taste? I was seriously considering them, yet their most expensive speaker was a bit below my budget and I thought I could do better with another company.

Thanks.

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#38898 - 03/27/04 10:07 PM Re: Would Axiom be the right sound for me?
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Registered: 05/03/03
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You can safely expect a far superior sound to the Klipsh from Axiom. They're not bright; they're just accurate. Therefore, if the recording is hot, they can be perceived as bright. Haven't heard the Athenas, but the Axioms are excellent.

BTW, bi-wiring is a myth. Have a look at this article.

The receiver warmth/brightness thing is highly debatable. You will hear both sides of the issue around here.
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#38899 - 03/27/04 10:32 PM Re: Would Axiom be the right sound for me?
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Thasp, welcome, and ditto to Ken's reply. What you've heard many places is wrong; the Axioms are simply accurate and reproduce what you give them. So, forget "bright" and for that matter forget bi-wiring too; use a single run of speaker wire of 16 gauge to 12 gauge, depending on the length of your run.
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#38900 - 03/28/04 01:17 AM Re: Would Axiom be the right sound for me?
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Registered: 03/14/02
Posts: 1351
Loc: Montreal
Thasp

everyone's ganging up on you.

buy some M60's and run ONE of 12 ga. Klipsch are bright speakers, Axioms aren't. I really can't stand listening to klipsch.

Athena is good but a tad dull because the soundstage is not so expansive. Axioms are far more open, and also more accurate.

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#38901 - 03/28/04 03:44 AM Re: Would Axiom be the right sound for me?
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Registered: 04/01/03
Posts: 5214
Loc: Los Angeles
Find a local B&W dealer. Listen to their $2500 703 towers, then pay $760 for the M60's and get pretty much the same exact sound.

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#38902 - 03/28/04 11:03 AM Re: Would Axiom be the right sound for me?
Thasp Offline
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Registered: 03/27/04
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Thanks people. The Axioms are back on my list!

Yeah, I was getting a pretty well reviewed brand of 12 guage speaker cable, and the spool was 100 feet for so little more than the 50 feet(which still would be way overkill), so I thought bi-wiring couldn't hurt to try, since I might as well use the extra wire I pay for. If it's a myth to my ears, I can always put it back in the spool to use with surround and center channels way down the road.

Again, thanks for the input people, I appreciate it!

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#38903 - 03/29/04 10:00 AM Re: Would Axiom be the right sound for me?
ravi_singh Offline
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Registered: 03/14/02
Posts: 1351
Loc: Montreal
good call Spiff

i do find that the 703's are extemely close to the M80's / M60's

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