Dave, it really just depends on how loud you want it to be, but the 1909 should get pretty freakin loud.
I will probably brand you as some sort of traitor if you abandon the noble M60
Does the 1909 have pre-outs?
Tom, as I would expect from either esteemed camp. That is why I will buy both to demo. I'll return one (undisclosed) pair. Then, when I am around the M80 fanboy club, I'll be wearing their color jersey. Conversely, when with the M60 fanboy club, I'll wear their color jersey. I'll of course need to be way more careful than Sara Palin, to not mix up my 'teams'. I figure I can be luaded for making the 'smart' choice by both camps...
for at least 7-9 minutes, then I'm ostracized by all! (maybe there is a better plan 'b'...)
