Honestly I think Alan should read up on Audyssey, it is a totally different technology than past years setup routines in receivers, and blows Trinnov out of the water if you read the reviews by many.
When the talk of the new Outlaw just restarted I did a search for “Audyssey vs Tinnov” and the first 3 pro reviews (only ones I read) all gave better marks to Trinnov. Though one reviewer said none of them were as good as proper room treatments. Have to go back and do some more looking.
I’ve only ever tried Audyssey and at this point have to agree with Alan’s comments. In the three rooms I’ve tried it in it did slightly but noticeably improve the surround sound imaging but at the huge price of making my front three speakers sound like crap with voices especially male vocals. I’m holding out hope the receiver or mic is defective and the next one will work better, but for now no EQ for me.
