Bruno: Good idea, though I can't say I've noted any BD players with dual HDMI outputs and Joyce won't love the idea of another BD player when I've got three standalone players now. Very interesting point regarding lossless audio and optical cables. To be frank, that's exactly the sort of thing that I haven't kept up with....! Thank you.

Anyone know offhand of BD players with two HDMI outs? It's not the sort of thing you come across in most comparison charts!

David: I too, assume the 3808 would not upgradeable in that respect. 3D is certainly not a priority for me. I didn't buy the TV for it, but figured what the heck...I might as well at least TRY it before knocking it! I wasn't really surprised when the receiver wasn't passing it.


::::::: No disrespect to Axiom, but my favorite woofer is my yellow lab :::::::