Not to rehash old issues, however, I couldn't help but notice(and chuckle) on the Audioholics website their description of what would be their concept of the ideal Dolby Atmos "yet to exist" surround speaker and surprise, surprise, there is an uncanny resemblance to the QS4/8s design which has been around forever. They must have had to bite their tongue not to have to acknowledge that since the QS4/8s design on the Axiom moveable bracket will essentially do what they perceive is required, I couldn't help but laugh about their description of this "yet to be designed" speaker.