Yeah, that seems to be the biggest (sic) concern everyone has with the tube type SVS subs.. But even Alan admits it takes volume/power/size to make bass.. Seems SVS is pretty stong in all three of those values ? But the 'ugly' part is hard to get passed, eh.. I'm thinking, with nothing but T/V and speakers against the one wall, and as I'm planning to hang a movie theater looking black curtain across that wall, all the gear will will just blend in, and not look so massive and in yer face ??

LFE ! The rest is just details..