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After the speaker purchase - advice?
#197071 02/19/08 09:44 PM
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I know this question is covered in many other threads. I have read some of them and just want to make sure I have all the tips I can have.

I have M22s, QS4s and an M2 center. I just recently realized I have the M22s up too high to sound really good - since I am trying to keep them out of the reach of my kid. And it is a small, odd shaped apartment. I might knock into a speaker accidently.

So, I saw in a couple old threads some ideas. 1) put the M22s upside down so the tweeter is nearer my ears. 2) use the FMBrackets to aim the speakers down to my ears. 3) I suppose I would then also turn them in a little toward me to see if that helps.

I saw that you need an angle of 22-30 degrees from center for each of the speakers. Help! I have been out of school for a long time and, besides, I am an American. So, throw me a bone! If I sit about 10 feet away does that equal 5 feet between speakers? Is this the same even if there is a center channel in use?

Any other ideas for placing the M22 mains?

The center speaker has problems of it's own. The back wall is a funny shaped alcove - so the center speaker is five to six feet behind the main speakers. Would a ceiling bracket hold an M2 safely to bring it more in line with the M22s (assuming I find a stud in the ceiling)? And would that sound decent or would having it so much higher be an issue?

The surrounds seem almost set up according to Alan's directions. We recently removed a bookcase - so now I can relocate my wife's prize poster of Ireland, and I can make the QS4s align more exactly.

TV placement? It is still an old 20 incher. I won't worry about the video part of Home Theater for now, that will be another conundrum for later (where to place that.)

Anyway, I appreciate you all letting me loiter inside your brains for a minute. I am sure I missed something else that is important, so I thought I would ask for tips, as I continue to read the threads.

By the way - the Axiom Forums are the most polite and helpful forums I have ever come across. I guess there is some kind of background check Noreen does before you can buy speakers from Axiom?

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Re: After the speaker purchase - advice?
donaldekelly #197072 02/19/08 09:50 PM
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Puting the speakers upside down should be an interesting experiment. I kinda want to try that.

What are your M22s on right now, stands or shelf?


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Re: After the speaker purchase - advice?
St_PatGuy #197074 02/19/08 09:58 PM
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 Originally Posted By: St_PatGuy
What are your M22s on right now, stands or shelf?


Oh - good question. 10 inch wide shelf - with plenty of air behind them. very little of the shelf is in front of the speakers.


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St_PatGuy #197075 02/19/08 10:01 PM
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I have been told it is good to form an equilateral triangle with you and the speakers.

example: if you measure straight from your ear to one of the speakers(not from your ear to the tv) and it is 10 feet, then you should have 10 feet between the two main speakers as well. (or each one should be 5 feet from the center of the TV).


If you are talking about the picture shown in this article:
http://www.axiomaudio.com/home_theater_layout.html

the 30 degree angle would create the equilateral triangle mentioned above.




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Re: After the speaker purchase - advice?
donaldekelly #197079 02/19/08 10:13 PM
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 Originally Posted By: donaldekelly
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What are your M22s on right now, stands or shelf?


Oh - good question. 10 inch wide shelf - with plenty of air behind them. very little of the shelf is in front of the speakers.


For stability purposes, I'd think using the FMB would work best to get the speakers to angle down to the listening position.

We like pictures here! Do you have pics of your set-up? If not, we'll just have to use our imagination.


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St_PatGuy #197081 02/19/08 10:23 PM
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A better way to do this is:

for a 22 degree angle if you sit 10 feet FROM THE TV then each speaker should be about 4 feet from the center of the TV (8 feet apart)

for a 30 degree angle if you sit 10 feet FROM THE TV then each speaker should be about 5.75 feet from the center of the TV, or 11.5 feet apart.


It is easier to measure the distance from your ear to the tv, otherwise its like an itterative process of moving speakers and measuring.

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terzaghi #197083 02/19/08 10:29 PM
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According to my grades in school, no. \:\(


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That dirty @*&^%! Calculus better not ever find himself alone in a dark alley, either.


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tomtuttle #197086 02/19/08 10:48 PM
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LOL! I still break out in a cold sweat just thinking about math.

My mom, on the other hand, took advanced calculus as an elective. Yup, those genes just leapfrogged right over me.


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St_PatGuy #197091 02/19/08 11:29 PM
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Donald, to try and add value amid the witty banter, I would definitely consider mounting the center M2 on the ceiling if you can't find anyplace better (lower) for it. Ceiling FMB is a good idea. I think having it close to the same vertical plane as the front speakers is an important consideration relative to recessing it in an alcove six feet behind the TV. But I probably need a picture.

I would definitely just turn the M22's upside-down and see what it sounds like.


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