Re: Audioholics Ultimate Subwoofer Shootout
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It seems such a trivial dispute for two company owners to take this to the forums. Though again its also noteworthy that Mr DeSalla didn't mention Axiom by name in his article. It seems forum members automatically assumed it was about Axiom and that put Axiom on the defense which is now spiraling out of control. I suspect the majority of AH readers would never realized those comments were directed at Axiom. Very few % of readers actively participate on forums and most of website traffic is generated from search engines, thus casual, perhaps one-time readers.
It's clear to me that Mr DeSalla is no PR or marketing guy. Perhaps his business sense isn't as astute as it should be. He reminds me of a typical engineer that has to prove a point regardless of the consequences.
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Personally, I find it a breach of trust when someone starts publicizing emails or personal messages online. I don't know anything about AH, Gene, or the people or persons involved with the testing procedure of thess subs, but if there was a question about how Paul(?) was interpreting or testing them then maybe that could have been addressed by Gene. It just seems there's a lttle fuel quietly added to each "reconcillatory" post.
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I'd still like to see Axiom subs in this testing. Even if it's not done scientifically. I bet it would do Axiom more good than harm.
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Yeah, I would like to see more reviews of Axiom products, even if it's not in a shootout format. Reviews of new products seem to trail by a long time, and then it's only at one or two places.
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I'd personally like to see at least one review of the EP800 that has 3rd party measurements. This product has been out for nearly a year now and the only reviews out are fluff reviews with no measurements or design critiques. Consider anytime a new SVS sub comes out, you can find tons of 3rd party measurements of their products all over the web, including pro-reviews. Come on Axiom get a REAL review of the EP800 so we can all drool over the measurements hoping one day to own one...or two
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It would be nice after all the dust has settled regarding all the contorversy to have a GTG for some of us average folk. Hey...I'd be willing to pack my sub and haul around the GTA to see how it would compare in relative terms to other subs for curiosity sake
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Personally, I find it a breach of trust when someone starts publicizing emails or personal messages online. That was one of my first thoughts as well.
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That said email or personel message wasn't privite in nature because it was cc to other people AFAIK. I received a copy of it about 6 weeks ago and it basically stated what Gene made public the other day because people started to jumping to conclusions! I'll make this my last post here until everything blows over but some of you have made it difficult to follow this forum based on what I've read.
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seems to me the trust was broken by Axiom by publicly stating misfacts about how Audioholics tests products. A simple "we don't feel its in our best interest to participate in shootouts" would have likely averted this entire situation.
Mistakes were obviously made by both parties. I just hope both can heal in time as I'd love to read more Axiom reviews on the Audioholics website.
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