Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Advice from Axiom Owners Just got the QSC and here's what happened!

On the QSC you said the clipping light came on. Has that came on since you fixed the connections? The fact the Onkyo shut down is probably a good thing considering you were dealing with faulty connections.

No, since i"fixed them" the clip light has not come on, But it did not come one when i first pluged them in either. So i can't say if the tweeters were working when I had the Onkyo on there, or not.


The QSC dose not seem to care.. it ran with the tweeters..unhooked basically...did nothing like shut down. Just showed a clip and not all the time.

Whatever the case may be...the speakers work, the QSC works....
Just missing some bass, but that depends on who is listening to it and what they want. Basically you can not get major bass out of a 6" speaker. You have to do something...so a small sub is probably the answer.

Yep, like everyone thought and what most recommended to check prior to buying the QSC. My guess is if you plug back the Onkyo and drive it to its max capability without clipping, it won't shut down and it probably dose LIKE the M80s. Now, if you want the power given by the QSC, it's different story but not your original one. In Any cases, I'm glad everything worked out OK and you're enjoying your system (at least until you'll become depth )

Bass response has more to do with the size of the drivers, the cabinet size of the m80's has a huge affect, room size, placement, etc. more than drivers.

The clipping light was telling you something.

From the number of times that you wrote the word "bass" throughout all your posts and the SPL levels you listen to, I'm not sure a small sub will cut it. If sticking with Axiom, I think a EP500 should be the minimum that you look at.

Putting them closer to boundaries will help re-enforce the bass response.

To be honest..I don't need a massive sub, to give explose stuff.
The M80's do put out decent bass, just a tad lacking, It's just that little space that i want to fill. This is strait music..not HT stuff.

If i had to compare it...kind of like a Martin Logan thing...yes they work fine...but a sub helps them out...gives you that Bottom.

The M80s are only down 3 dB at 34 Hz. It takes a pretty large sub to get substantial output below that. But if you're looking for the kick that you feel in your chest cavity, that's several octaves up from there. The M80s handle that range very well. But it's easy for their position in the room, and your location too, will hide much of that bass energy.

Honestly, you don't seem to listen to people's advice, so you'll probably go and do your own thing. But you really should try moving the speakers around the room to see if you find that bass you're wanting, before investing any more money.

Why? That's where the Polks were and they worked fine!
Honestly, it could be also that the Polks might not have a flat frequency response somewhere in the 50 to 80Hz range and might have accentuated the bass effect and the M80s are flat and you're not used to it. I get more of the "punch" or "feel" when it's handled by the M80s (crossed at 40Hz) than when it's handled by the EP600 (crossed at 80Hz). If you don't like the way it sounds, first play with placement as Chris suggested, then if you have some kind of EQ, try increasing the level on the 40/80Hz range, then give a sub a try.