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Axiom - Paradigm (yes yes, another one)
#37077 03/14/04 03:12 PM
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I know you guys probably get tired of the above subject line, but I am in a situation where axiom might be the best decision.
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first jump into home theatre was w/ v.2 paradigm monitor 7s, mini monitors, cc370, and pdr-12. i really did enjoy this setup. especially for the price. it did its job well.
i wanted to try something new and sold them on ebay...
then, i tried rockets (new and used). the sound was not for me and the veneers were not impressive when you got up close.
so, now i'm returning/selling the rocket setup and trying to decide if i should go back to my preference of paradigm or jump into the axiom world.
one concern is that the only way of obtaining paradigms for myself is through ebay. my nearest dealer is 100 miles away and won't budge on his prices. i was originally thinking about going for the following setup of paradigm; cc470, studio 60, studio 20.
so...
the dimensions of the room - 14x13 w/ a vaulted celing
seating distance ~9ft

any recommendations and/or experience is greatly appreciated!

thanks guys

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#37078 03/14/04 03:39 PM
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What is your budget? I auditioned the Paradigm Studio 60 last week and I think it's pretty well built.(SOLID) I was impressed at the clarity of lows and midtones. I turned up the volume and I notice some breakage. (tinny sound). The sales rep also told me that the Studio series is also Vinyl like the Axioms. I don't think it's worth that much ($1900 CAD). I'am not being bias about this because I'm in the same boat. I don't have the Axioms yet but already ordered them this morning (M60ti). I have no clue on how the M60 will compete with the Studio 60. This is why they have a 30 day money back guarantee. I will let you know how it compares to the studio 60's.


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#37079 03/14/04 04:02 PM
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My brother has Monitor 7's, CC-370, PDR-12 and Atoms for the surrounds. I liked how they sound in his room, which is small-->medium (something like 10' X 15'). I started out auditioning them. His setup would cost me about $1700 US (I live in NJ). My concern was in the size of my room, which is 16' X 24' with a 16' cathedral ceiling. I did not think that setup would "work" in my room which is about 3500 cu. ft. larger.

Moving up the Paradigm line got real pricey. I also looked at the B&W line. The only affordable solution there was bookshelves and I was not convinced they would work anyway.

I stumbled upon Axiom, how I don't know since I NEVER heard of them before. I got M60s, VP150 and QS8s. I'll get the sub in the near future. Anyway, I've had these for 30 days (I guess they're mine now!) They're great!!! I can not remember the last time I listened to as much music, or watched as many movies as I do now.

I hope this helps. Good Luck!

John

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#37080 03/14/04 06:26 PM
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I replied to your PM, but just to drive it home...

M60ti mains
VP150 center
QS8 surrounds

You've got 30 days to fall in love with them...just let them try to get them back from you. In all my time on these boards, I don't recall anyone hearing both Paradigm and Axioms and deciding to keep the Paradigms. Both are good, but the Axioms are a bit better and a LOT cheaper.

Good luck and let us know how it turns out.



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#37081 03/14/04 07:08 PM
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I upgraded from Mini-Monitors (v.2) to Axiom M60's. I won't bother telling you the difference between them in regard to low frequency performance, since it's not fair to compare a tower to a bookshelf speaker's low-end performance. But the mids and highs were much clearer and detailed on the Axiom's.

I've read from others that the v.3 Paradigms sound considerably better than the v.2's, but I can't personally attest to this. I still suspect the Axioms are the better deal when price is considered.

Jason


M80 HP v4, VP160 v4, QS8 v1 (3 in 6.1 layout), SVS PB12-Plus/2, Parasound Halo A21, Denon AVR-X4100W
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#37082 03/14/04 07:28 PM
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Most people say the Axioms compare best to Paradigm's Studio Series. Which are much more expensive than Axiom speakers. So if you are worried about the comparison between Monitor, Performance, or Cinema series, Axiom have been repeatedly found to be better.

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#37083 03/14/04 07:48 PM
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I love the M60's. Better than Paradigm Reference. And they're less expensive. And the custoemr service is better.

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#37084 03/14/04 08:18 PM
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thanks guys.
i might give this a swing this week

everyone seems to recommend qs8 for surrounds.
i'd like to, eventually, complete my 7.1 capabilities. would 4 qs8's be too diffused? should i stick with 4 M2i's?

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#37085 03/14/04 08:34 PM
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I think lots of folks are recommending 2 M2s and 2 QS8s, actually, for 7.1

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#37086 03/14/04 09:05 PM
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Have you shared your decision with the boys on the av123 forum? I'm sure they'll tell you to get your head examined or some such .

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