Re: Axiom's view on speaker break-in?
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Was the beat up driver built to the same specs as the new driver? We will never know. Setting audio aside, I can tell you from first-hand experience that even electromagnets "break in". My colleague and I spent a week trying to figure out why our levitator was losing stability over time. As we examined the real-time waveforms and worked "backwards" through the math for our system, we realized the coil resistance was rising. When we cooled the coil, long term stability returned. That incident is burned into me and has served me well a few times.
House of the Rising Sone Out in the mid or far field Dedicated mid-woofers are over-rated
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Re: Axiom's view on speaker break-in?
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I've been a "not buying it" guy when it comes to speaker break-in. But my new M80s are sounding better all the time. And while I'm sure getting used to them is part of the equation, I'm no longer convinced that it's the whole story. So I'll be keeping an eye on this thread for when the truth is revealed.
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Re: Axiom's view on speaker break-in?
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If Peter (Hexibase) says something I believe it. I have watched all his vids and he is an encycleopedia of audio info. Freakishly smart. He is a pro and makes a living at it. He almost makes me want to learn advanced math so I can read my last textbook on the shelf…. Almost! Lol. The drivers in the vid are identical as he mentioned. One is straight out of the box. The other 3 years of use.
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Re: Axiom's view on speaker break-in?
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I encourage you to learn more math. I know you can do it.
I'm a believer.
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Re: Axiom's view on speaker break-in?
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Agree with Hexibase comment Trevor. He seems super sharp. It definitely goes over my head sometimes, as does Hans Beekhuyyzen but I feel they are both credible and I always learn something. Sometimes it’s good to have something to aspire to in terms of understanding. Gotta start somewhere. I’ve learned a ton since buying these m60s in 2019. And it’s only the beginning of the audio enjoyment journey. I’m taking my time and relishing in it. I have this forum to thank a lot for that learning too for sure.
M60ti Hafler9505 & JFET Pre,Axiom Transformer. M3 Marantz PM7200 Dual 606 Denon 2700 M2 Yammy RX595
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Re: Axiom's view on speaker break-in?
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How things change. Remember when the wise ones on this site laughed at the suggestion that speaker break-in was a real phenomenon?
Enjoy the Music. Trust your ears. Laugh at Folks Who Claim to Know it All.
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How things change. Remember when the wise ones on this site laughed at the suggestion that speaker break-in was a real phenomenon? ...and that nobody would want real wood veneer on their speakers?
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Re: Axiom's view on speaker break-in?
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Enjoy the Music. Trust your ears. Laugh at Folks Who Claim to Know it All.
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Re: Axiom's view on speaker break-in?
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...and that nobody would want real wood veneer on their speakers? The question was never about whether or not prospects want real wood veneers. It was about whether they'd pay a premium for wood veneers. In the post below, Alan explains Axiom used real wood veneer but "...dropped that because of competitive pressures and lack of demand." As explained by Ian, wood veneer prices became comparable to vinyl and hence we're able to enjoy real wood veneer now. https://www.axiomaudio.com/boards/ubbthreads.php/topics/195052/speaker-construction
House of the Rising Sone Out in the mid or far field Dedicated mid-woofers are over-rated
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Re: Axiom's view on speaker break-in?
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...and that nobody would want real wood veneer on their speakers? The question was never about whether or not prospects want real wood veneers. It was about whether they'd pay a premium for wood veneers. In the post below, Alan explains Axiom used real wood veneer but "...dropped that because of competitive pressures and lack of demand." As explained by Ian, wood veneer prices became comparable to vinyl and hence we're able to enjoy real wood veneer now. https://www.axiomaudio.com/boards/ubbthreads.php/topics/195052/speaker-constructionYou need more hobbies if you are digging up 13 year old post! LOL
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