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Re: Kudos to Alan, another floorstanding comparison !
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After the M80ti's arrive, I will send Jack some pics ... and suck up to him so he will post them here ...

Re: Kudos to Alan, another floorstanding comparison !
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OK! To start the "suck up" off right, I want a ride in the Vette! We'll negotiate further when the M80s arrive.

Paradigm 100 V.3 on the outside, Energy Veritas 2.4i in the middle, and Onix Ref 3 in Birdseye Maple on the inside. 4 Rocket UFW-10 subwoofers, Emotiva DMC-1 preamp, Emotiva MPS-1 Amplifier (200Wx7 into 8 ohms).






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Re: Kudos to Alan, another floorstanding compariso
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Well then, allow me to be the first to say that is a ridiculously attractive array of speakers. Are you sure there's room for the M80s?

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I was think about this comparison a bit today. We know that Axiom uses a fair amount of blind testing (and a ton of blind-listening-derived research) to design, test, and validate their speakers. NRC research shows that the human ear favors a flat frequency response and people will choose flat over unflat with statistical significance.

Doesn't this give Axiom speakers an unfair advantage in a blind test?

(Actually, I know the Paradigms are pretty flat, but have no idea about the Onix or Energy speakers.)

Re: Kudos to Alan, another floorstanding compariso
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Thanks, Jack ... And sure, I will be glad to terrify you in the Vette ...

I have already moved the speakers into seperate systems, so they can get more "play" for break in purposes.

As for Axioms having an advantage, let's just say Alan was PRETTY happy to have the M80ti's in with some $4000 speakers ...

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oh, pardon me while i grab some towels to clean up the drool that is now dripping onto my keypad. beautiful display of speakers there.. not sure which are yours, or which are on loan, but i would try and keep them ALL!!!

very nice HT room also. i really like the big open face equip rack type system that you and tharkun both have. and i cant wait to get some results on the testing. as far as i am concerned, if the $1200 M80's, can compete with any $4000 pair of speakers, then i think you have a clear winner already!!

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Re: Kudos to Alan, another floorstanding compariso
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Vette? what year? I'm putting money down on an 06-Z06.

And how'd you get a set of Ref 3's?

Re: Kudos to Alan, another floorstanding comparison !
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Them's purty.

Placement question - I'd have thought that a more valid testing array would put the speakers in the same order L-R on BOTH sides rather than symmetrically. The current picture would indicate that all of the pairs have different spacing both between them and relative to the side walls. I'd think that either one of these factors could affect the outcome. If you took the example to the extreme, having one pair in the middle of the room 10' apart would give you different imaging than another pair that was 16' apart and next to the side walls, wouldn't it?


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Re: Kudos to Alan, another floorstanding compariso
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I have owned the Ref 3's for about 9 months now, and bought the rest of the speakers ... We have lots of rooms !

Re: Kudos to Alan, another floorstanding compariso
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We are getting and '05 C-6 ... and are wavering between ordering a Z-06 or a 911 ...

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