Read a new review of the Denon 2803 in S&V magazine.It has a 7 X 90 W amp, so they claim, but only outputs 83 W X 5 , and 75 W X 6 according to there lab tests. I can't help but look at my Onkyo and wonder...... I'm convinced seperates are the way to go. If you by a receiver make sure it has preouts. I'm glad mine does.