how about a pair of m160ti,-i asked allen over the phone shortly after i got my m80s when these were coming out(just a proto-type in my head),just take a pair of m80s and put one upside-down on the other and build it into one cabinet-and at 2200 (cost of 2 pairs)us dollars,and if that could be done,and still have the same sound quality as the m80s,but twice as loud,that would absolutly be the best audio value on the market.i would definetly order them....well, where are they?.....ron