Yeah, the Creative Zen plus gets good reviews for sound and ease of use, but I read several complaints of the plastic joystick on it breaking off. Plus you cant remove the battery pack.
Conversely the Sansa seems to be a solid player with decent options, slightly heavier with metal backing plate you can remove to get to battery pack. The only thing with the sansa was apparently some static with low volumes and not as good sound quality.
I would get the creative, but I think the cheap plastic joystick would always worry me. The sansa is $50 off right now at Future Shop, so its looking a bit more attractive.
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