I think you can get the 2308 for about 650ish the 2308 for 800ish, and the 3808 for $1098 from 6ave.com. (as I mentioned you must call to get the price.)

These are below the MSRP prices by quite a bit.

If sticking around the same budget as the receivers you mentioned I would seriously consider the 2308... unless of course you want to spend more; then get a higher model.






-David