Sorry John, I spent my money on speakers this year so maybe next year I'll do a digital camera. I can tell you though that they look great as the black grill compliments the the light beach finish extremely well. If you've got a HiFi store near you that caries Monitor Audio speakers, they have a very similar finish to the Mansfield Beach with Black grills. I saw them at the Goodguys. I know you'll like the look but you'll LOVE the sound of Axiom's!