Aeromos- Yeah ML = Martin Logan. I have owned the Script, Scenario, and now have the Ascenti's (4) with the Cinema center. When I placed the VP-150 in place of the Cinema I had no idea such an inexpensive speaker could compare to another over $1000.00 more. The VP-150 wasn't as enveloping, but just as detailed, and in fact there were little sounds that I hadn't heard before, and some that became more obvious. The scene from Jurassic Park (DTS) when they are in the helicopter, and Ian takes a piece of candy from his jacket and unwraps it I could hear it just a bit clearer with the VP than the Cinema. Also the VP center seemed more anchored to the screen than the Cinema. IMO, a $1400 speaker should do EVEYTHING better than one 1/4 of the price. It has me rethinking alot about my hi-end purchase. I really can't wait to hear what the M80's sound like with B&K amps.