I think initially, the 3808 was in the $1900 range. I *think* Or maybe that was my Marantz. I really like the idea of having the "height" speakers - it makes sense that it would add a lot to the sound stage. Of course that would mean two more QS8s (maybe 22's?) WAF may kick in here \:\)

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Denon 4520, EPIC80/500/VP180 Speakers