[quote=TonyNI remember reading a while back that they created the VP180 to please those unhappy with the VP150 (I think?).[/quote]

... or to make those with the VP150 unhappy.

M60ti, VP180, QS8, M2ti, EP500, PC-Plus 20-39
M5HP, M40ti, Sierra-1
LFR1100 active, ADA1500-4 and -8