They arrived today in excellent condition ( the outside ). No scratches or dents from shipping. Yes I know the VP160 deserves to placed on its official stand which i will order when i buy the QS8. The M22 are sitting on metal B&W stands from I used to have B&W 685. But M22 are tall so i will buy the stands that are recommended from axiom. You may also notice the triangle piece of wood in the left corner. I am making my own bass trap so I placed the stand according to how far the wood stood out.