I just got my Epic 60 system, without an Axiom sub. Based on comments here, I went with an SVS sub (PS1-ISD) that, with shipping, was only slightly more expensive than the Axiom 350. There is a lot of praise for the Axiom subs, but I just decided to buy from a sub specialist. I'm very pleased with the SVS sub. The Axiom may sound just as good; I have no way of knowing. If you order five Axioms (speakers but no sub), you still get the 5% package discount. Buying the Axiom sub gives you matching appearance throughout your system.