I agree with Matt. That being said I remember all the way back in history to the long forgotten spring/ summer of 2014 when Axiom was selling v4 at v3 prices. I bought LFR1000's, VP180HP, QS8's, etc at a very good price point. I believe Axiom gave their customers, old and new, a rare gift in the audio business. As an aside, can anyone see reference to a ten year warranty on the website?. I'm the guy who asked them to stop advertising the LFR dsp as having a 12v trigger.