Thanks, guys. I'm currently using a Marantz SR5010, also purchased from Accessories4Less, so I was already thinking of suggesting a newer model to him. Too bad they don't measure so well. Pre-outs would be a must. Denon may be the way to go. My general impression over the years is that there was a decline in quality with no discernible improvement in usability, but this was based on just random things I read, not from any real research. Denon's website shows the X2700H as having a 0.2 multichannel preout, so does that mean just two subwoofer outputs? I'd have to jump up to the X3700H?
