Still not sure but leaning towards The Denon 3805 although it's pretty steep. I may wait around a month and see what's new. I think Onkyo is releasing some new amps. I think I also need to research brands I know nothing about that people here keep mentioning; NAD HK and Rotel. Like I said the separation and sound in my front 60's and 150 with the old Kenwood is impressive so I know 5.1 6.1 or 7.1 will be phenomenal! Any input is always appreciated.BTW I also hung the qs8 even though I have no wires with the fmb. Very easy and a great look. My buddy is a carpenter/electrical kind of guy so hopefully we can fish wires through the ceiling on Wed or else it'll be some serious drilling!