Give 6ave.com a look see.. They are an authorized dealer, and have some smoking deals with the Denon line.. I bought my 3802 from them a little over a month ago.. Package came double boxed, just like Axiom speakers.. Not a 2nd, etc.. You might have to work the sales dude to get yer best deal, so don't be afraid to wheel and deal.. (you can still get the 3802 for 699.. ask for chris).. Good luck..

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