I paid $750 (to Seattle)including shipping with soundpros.com They are tremendous. I was on the phone with Scott for quite awhile just bs-ing getting info, very knowledgeable and helpful. They seem to be the "Axiom" of hardware. Dynacosales on ebay has it for about $25 less. Sound is great with the 60's up front, vp150 and 2 QS8's on the side. I will be ordering 2 more QS8's for the back next week!