spiff is right about the DVD-As BTW. Also, ecost is generally a pretty good opportunity if you don't have qualms about refurb/b-stock (I don't) Bought a Denon DVM-4800 from them last year and I'm still tickled. As with any retailer/etailer, some folks have had bad experiences, but nothing that shows a trend.

Also, for $30, I bought a 2 year extended warranty from ecost, so that may solve another problem that Jack mentioned.

As always, there is no such thing as "too much" in this insane HT hobby. There is the ever present "what if" that gnaws at the very core of your manhood . Go for the 3805.