Thanks for all the input guys, a lot of expertise around here... since I know the upgrade path can be a bottomless pit, I am drawing the line at getting a fullblown amp set-up, but will upgrade my receiver if necessary, I think my best chance of keeping it reasonable is drop down to the 60's, the VP150, and the QS8's with an eventual reciever upgrade along with a pair of SVS PB 12's in a couple of months... maybe even add another set of 60's in the back sometime later. thoughts?