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Re: What Now?
#106739 08/04/05 02:29 PM
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No, Sony won the Betamax case, which is I think the test case for all of this. However, the entertainment industry has been trying to kill off that ruling for years. Sony appears to have switched sides... Hence the DMCA and DRM.


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Re: What Now?
#106740 08/04/05 03:12 PM
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Oh ok. This stuff drives me nuts. Not to stray too far off topic, but have a read at this.

iPod tax

This is really disturbing and is a good example of large scale greed.

Re: What Now?
#106741 08/04/05 03:36 PM
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Infuriating. I buy CDs and rip my own for my iPod. And I buy music on iTunes. I don't pirate anymore, I can't afford lawyers to fight the RIAA. In fact, in the past 10 years, I only install commercial software I've bought. Just a karma thing.

But to limit me from burning a CD I paid for? That's ridiculous. I'd only agree to buy that kind of CD if there's a way for me to go online and download the CD as well, in MP3 format. Otherwise, "Hello iTunes".

Re: What Now?
#106742 08/04/05 03:46 PM
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Hello used CDs...


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Re: What Now?
#106743 08/04/05 04:24 PM
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I feel the same as oldskool when it comes to being able to rip my own CDs. I don't want to buy MP3 because I get better quality when I rip my own. I also often make copies of my CDs for everyday use, and store the orignal in my library.

Re: What Now?
#106744 08/04/05 04:26 PM
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I think someone on this forum posted about http://secondspin.com before. I've ordered a couple of cd's from them and haven't had any problem with scratches. It's not quite as cheap as Amiba can be, but it's a lot more convenient

Re: What Now?
#106745 08/04/05 04:40 PM
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The CD I bought that had this protection wouldn't allow me to rip to mp3 and thus put it on my iPod. What's really funny is that enough people must have complained to Sony that they put this form up. If you fill out the form, they will send you an email explaining how to defeat their DRM!

Re: What Now?
#106746 08/04/05 04:56 PM
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What program are you trying to rip with?

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Re: What Now?
#106747 08/04/05 05:13 PM
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Curious how Sony suggests bypassing DRM. Wonder if they make you install a client. I'd be wary at that point, I wouldn't want Sony to know what I have on my computer. In addition, we'd still be limited to the compression that the provide. I use 320Kbps LAME but I doubt they'd provide that. Our luck, they'd give us WMA...

Re: What Now?
#106748 08/04/05 05:23 PM
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James,
Truthfully I didn't actually try to rip the cd from my windows pc. Winamp wouldn't recognize the cd though, so I have serious doubts that any Windows ripping software would work.

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