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Re: epic 80-600
#110765 09/23/05 03:52 AM
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I noticed a very significant change in sound over the first couple of days, even when I left the speakers playing and went to work. I do acknowledge that it could be my brain adapting to the sound of the Axioms, but (a) it is a stretch but not impossible that I could adapt even when not listening to the speakers, and (b) I have never adapted to anything in my life (a bit of Vogon on my father's side) so it's highly unlikely that I would suddenly adapt to new speakers.


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Re: epic 80-600
#110766 09/23/05 04:10 AM
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The reason titanium and aluminum are chosen as driver materials is that they're light and rigid. Why would you want them to soften up? It would muddy the sound. If you're referring the the other parts of the speaker breaking-in -- the surround and the spider -- then those are the same regardless of the actual cone material.

Re: epic 80-600
#110767 09/23/05 04:36 AM
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>>If you're referring the the other parts of the speaker breaking-in -- the surround and the spider -- then those are the same regardless of the actual cone material.

That is a good point, which I haven't heard before.

La la la la la la la la la la ....


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Re: epic 80-600
#110768 09/23/05 04:15 PM
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let me update up guys with what i have done over the past few days......sorry couldn't post earlier......i set all speakers to small and the mains change at 90hz or below to subwoofer.......i couldn't find any way to bring it down...also i noticed that i had connected the subwoofer to the receiver at the slit jack and not the mono jack as recommended .....that has been corrected........also the surrounds were not firing as i had selected "front mains only"......so now i get the surround speakers firing and get better bass from the sub.......and i watched the helicopter scene from matrix again...and there was a big difference.........also i brought the volume upto 25db....and yes the neighbours did ask my wife again about what kind of speakers we have....i will continue to read the receiver manual and see what else can i do.......and keep you guys posted.....thanks for everybodys input...it was very helpful

Re: epic 80-600
#110769 09/23/05 05:45 PM
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Outlaw's new model 1070 has independant crossovers


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Re: epic 80-600
#110770 09/23/05 05:56 PM
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how do i change the frequency on the main fronts to say 80 or less......currently they are set at 90

Re: epic 80-600
#110771 09/23/05 08:13 PM
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A quick check of the Z1's manual seems to indicate that when you set any speaker to small, there is only the fixed crossover point of 90 Hz. The crossover point doesn't seem to be selectable. My Onkyo is like that, but it's crossover point is 80Hz.

Can anybody confirm or correct me?


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Re: epic 80-600
#110772 09/23/05 08:16 PM
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Jack, if you haven't been confirmed by now, why bother?

Same goes for correcting you.........

Re: epic 80-600
#110773 09/23/05 10:30 PM
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I just scanned the RX-Z1 manual, as well, and it looks like the crossover is fixed at 90Hz.

Re: epic 80-600
#110774 09/23/05 10:39 PM
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At $2700 flagship receiver, and it has a 90hz fixed crossover for all channels...yikes. What were the boys over at Yahama thinking?

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