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#118571 - 12/19/05 12:20 AM Re: ok. HSU VTF 3 MK2.....OH, OH, maybe
Ajax Offline
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You won't go wrong with a VTF-3.
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#118572 - 12/19/05 02:28 AM Re: ok. HSU VTF 3 MK2.....OH, OH, maybe
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Has anyone tried using the "Night" feature on some Receivers to smooth out the volume levels?
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#118573 - 12/19/05 08:20 AM Re: ok. HSU VTF 3 MK2.....OH, OH, maybe
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Even when I was still living in my apartment and had to be considerate of my next-door neighbor, I never used the "night" function. I had no logical reason for choosing to avoid it, but it kind of seemed like the compression was robbing me of what the sound team intended -- kind of like fullscreen vs. widescreen. I just bumped the volume down a couple of notches...
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#118574 - 12/19/05 09:05 AM Re: ok. HSU VTF 3 MK2.....OH, OH, maybe
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The importance of a "musical subwoofer" will depnend how much you value accurate music reproduction and how low your speakers can go. If your front speakers can only go to 60Hz and you listen to 90% music, then the "musicality" of your subwoofer will be more important.

With that said, I have heard great things about the HSU subs regarding its "musicality". Though it probably isn't as "musical" as subwoofers such as the ACI Maestro (really expensive) or Rocket UFW-10 (doesn't go as deep), from what I have read, the HSU VTF-3 strikes a nice balance between cost and musical performance, without sacrificing the low end extension. These are based on the subjective impression of others, and I can post those links if you are interested.

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#118575 - 12/19/05 10:32 AM Re: ok. HSU VTF 3 MK2.....
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Registered: 09/30/03
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When you said you thought you would "blow a tweeter" I naturally assumed you were referring to brightness in your system.

As for the soundtrack on WOTW the only time I ever noticed odd sounds is when the tripods blow their horn at the very beginning. Its that crackling sound everyone on AVS forum is referring to. As for the lasers in the beginning and every where else, I've watched it with the volume as high as -5 above reference and it doesn't appear to be distorted on my system at all. It actually sounds really good.

The dialog is recoded a bit low, but I just didn't find myself grabbing the remote even at -5. I really didn't find the range between loud and soft passages any different than Lord of the Rings or a lot of other action movies. I thought it sounded great.

Anyone else notice any problems with the sound on WOTW?


Edited by Legairre (12/19/05 10:46 AM)
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#118576 - 12/19/05 12:16 PM Re: ok. HSU VTF 3 MK2.....OH, OH, maybe
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Yes, my Rotel/Axiom system is stereo only. Unfortunately, I still have a HTIB for home theater. As you can see below, I have M60s, but I believe, and many had suggested that it can benefit from adding a sub, which will be used later in a HT application. What makes a sub more musical than another one?

I would love those links please, or any other readings on subs for stereo.
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#118577 - 12/19/05 04:31 PM Re: ok. HSU VTF 3 MK2.....OH, OH, maybe
jinhan Offline
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Here is a link explaing why a subwoofer sounds musical.
Subwoofer designs and how it impacts characteristics

Here are comparison threads with the HSU:
HSU VTF-3 compared to Rocket UFW-12
HSU VTF-3 compared to ACI Maestro

But as Jack said, I don't think you can go wrong with the VTF-3, especially if you are going to use if for HT later.

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#118578 - 12/20/05 12:37 PM Re: ok. HSU VTF 3 MK2.....OH, OH, maybe
thyname Offline
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Anybody has had any experience with Rel Strata, or Martin Logan subs? They come very recommended for music.
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#118579 - 12/20/05 12:57 PM Re: ok. HSU VTF 3 MK2.....OH, OH, maybe
jinhan Offline
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I had the opportunity to audition the Martin Logan Grotto. It was a excellent performer for music, and did relatively well for home theater applications. I believe it's flat to 25Hz, but I've never seen any FR curves published. I don't think it will go as low and powerful as the HSU VTF-3, but the Grotto deserves a listen, IMHO.

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#118580 - 12/22/05 11:03 AM Re: ok. HSU VTF 3 MK2.....OH, OH, maybe
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REL Q150E it is!! I had the chance to go to Magnolia at BB last night (thank God for holidays they keep it open late these days). I was surprised they were really good there, did not expect this from BB affiliate. Dedicated audio room, a decent selection of speakers and electronics. They even let me listen to different combinations for one hour, having the chance to switch things myself (nice touch-on screen selector). Anyway, to make long story short, I liked REL and got if for USD 899. I felt that it was "faster", more accurate and "tighter" than Martin-Logan's Grotto, even though the latter being deeper but kinda boomy. It also has a cool high-pass function, different than other subs' high-level pass. It makes sure than the sub gets same signal at the amplifier binding posts as the speakers, by hooking a high-level cord right there, perfect for stereo use (or at least so I think).

I hooked it up around midnight, but then I woke up my wife and she was screaming to me about waking up neighbors or something... anyway.... I have to wait until tonight after work to "play" with it. Any recommendations on setup from REL users would be really appreciated!
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