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Re: Is 50 Watt HK AVR240 enough for Axioms?
#119503 12/08/05 06:34 PM
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Hey GregM, I'm running an AVR110 which is 45 watts all around I think.

I'm currently running M60's VP150 QS8's and HSU VTF3-MKII and it goes plenty loud and clear. I've not had any distortion yet as it has got too loud to push it any further.

The only thing I noticed is that I do not seem to get as much bass from the 60's as I've heard at other places. This could easily be my room/set up/layout though.

For h/t it will easily do the job for you depending on your room size. Mine is 20' long by 10 wide. Tv & speakers on the short wall.




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Re: Is 50 Watt HK AVR240 enough for Axioms?
#119504 12/08/05 06:40 PM
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With the powered sub and 22s, I think you'll do well to try the 240.

Good Luck!

Re: Is 50 Watt HK AVR240 enough for Axioms?
#119505 12/08/05 06:51 PM
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Took an early lunch and went to RelayVillage. I did a side by side comparison between a 335 and a 235. The volume knob needed about a 5db adjustment to get sound about even, but the subwoofer difference was huge. With the 335 the sub sounded like I expected it to. With the 235, it barely put out anything. I checked speaker settings on both receivers and they were the same. The difference was like not having a sub altogether.

I'll have to go back after work when I have more time and see if I can get the AVR235 to sound better. Maybe the 235 wasn't working right? I can always buy the 240 and if it is bad, just return it. I thought this was going to be easy.

Greg

Re: Is 50 Watt HK AVR240 enough for Axioms?
#119506 12/08/05 07:56 PM
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That's wierd. I would be careful about drawing any conclusions from this. The subwoofer output is the only place where a bigger/better receiver should NOT make a difference.

Did you have a chance to check the channel levels between the two receivers ? It sounds as if the sub level might have been turned down relative to the other speakers on the 235.


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Re: Is 50 Watt HK AVR240 enough for Axioms?
#119507 12/08/05 08:00 PM
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The sub is usually connected to a pre-out. This means the reciver isn't providing any amplification to the sub.

The sub takes the line level signal (which should be the same between the 235 and 335 if the levels arent set different in the reciever) and amplify it with the subs own internal amplifier.

Check the levels setting in the receivers and the gain/volume knobs on the subs, make sure they are equal. If so, switch subs- maybe one's blown?

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Re: Is 50 Watt HK AVR240 enough for Axioms?
#119508 12/08/05 09:31 PM
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You guys are right about the pre-out thing of course. From a sub standpoint, these receivers should sound identical.

I went ahead and bought a new AVR240 despite this concern and will pick it up after work. I can take it back in 30 days time for any reason which is the nice thing about buying local. It was worth the $50 premium I had to pay.

I am sure it will sound great and I'll post back tonight with my findings.

Greg

Re: Is 50 Watt HK AVR240 enough for Axioms?
#119509 12/08/05 09:36 PM
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Sounds like a good call. I have put HK130s into a few friend's HT setups and in every case it plays clearly at higher volumes than they would ever care to hear, assuming the sub can keep up.


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Re: Is 50 Watt HK AVR240 enough for Axioms?
#119510 12/09/05 04:46 AM
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What a good move the AVR 240 was!

I am sure I am suffering from newcomponentitis but it seems like this 2005 model receiver does a better job with surround sound than my 1998 era HK AVR65. That is probably wishful thinking but oh well. The 50 watts is plenty of power and Iike being able to set crossovers whereever I want them to be. Movie watching is done about 5db higher than with the AVR65 but I still have plenty of headroom. At -10db, the into to Fellowship of the Ring was a little too loud. Music needs to be at about -20db but my older model had this same 10 db difference.

If one has money to burn or other demands, a higher price receiver is likely worth it. But if you just want to watch movies at moderate to pretty dang loud levels, take a look at this unit. Money well spent. Time to watch Riding Giants.

Greg

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#119511 12/09/05 05:18 AM
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Great! Enjoy!

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