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Re: Axiom VP-150 or a better center
#120178 12/13/05 07:26 PM
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Bottom line seems to be; for a lot of folks at least, a center capable of getting comfortably down to at least 60hz.

Not everyone is excited at crossing at 80 and perhaps missing something.(I cross at 60 and like what I hear thru my single M3 in a 16X27 room)

Maybe someone should start a poll and see just how many Axiom fans would like a newer style center.

Re: Axiom VP-150 or a better center
#120179 12/13/05 07:40 PM
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Good idea, I just created one. I'm interested to see what the out come will be, although I've got a pretty good idea based on the many discussion pretaining to this topic.


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Re: Axiom VP-150 or a better center
#120180 12/13/05 09:21 PM
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I am actually thinking of going with two W22s on either side of my fireplace instead of my VP150.




Re: Axiom VP-150 or a better center
#120181 12/14/05 01:02 AM
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I can't speak to the Axiom Center channels (although I do own an EP500), but in my opinion there is nothing wrong with crossing the center over at 80hz. I currently own M&K 850 speakers and they are sealed and don't go below 80hz. I like the center much better than the Polk LSiC and the Monitor Audio Silver center I previously owned and both of which went down to around 50hz. If the Axiom Center channels are designed well (and I am sure they are), I wouldn't stress about needing to cross them over any lower.

Re: Axiom VP-150 or a better center
#120182 12/14/05 03:32 AM
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I personally have no issues with vp-150 now that I have the Yamaha, and was able to eq separately. I had a Nad before, and with the NAD I couldn't even add bass or treble to the center, only the front left/right speakers. And NAD isn't the only one to do that unfortunately

I'm now considering going with presence channels up front above the m80's. My setup is a bit awkward for 7.1, but 5.1 with presence would be easy to do with the RXV-4600. Two VP-150's, one below screen, one above screen also has a nice ring to it as well, but I don't need it.

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Re: Axiom VP-150 or a better center
#120183 12/14/05 04:48 PM
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In reply to:

Keep in mind, though, that the Studio 100 mains, 570 center, 4 x 470 surrounds and a single Servo 15 will set you back about $7000 U.S.




Oh, absolutely. I guess it comes down to "you get what you pay for" but at the same time, arguably the difference in cost does not quite justify the small extra performance (law of dimishing returns).

Perhaps a ported VP-100 (or W-100 in my case) might be an option?

Re: Axiom VP-150 or a better center
#120184 12/15/05 12:52 PM
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One interesting thought.....Noticing how many folks are purchasing EP500 and 600s instead of SVS and Hsu these days; I wonder how many system sales have been lost to Axiom in the past due to not having a(probably more expensive)center chanel in the line up?

I, personaly, found a significant difference in going from a center that was rated down to 80hz, crossed at 80, to my M3 which I cross at 60. I no longer have a voice component sneaking into my sub, and I do find an increase in information being presented thru the center that was missing before on familiar DVDs. Maybe more of a "Presence" sort of thing. Things just seem to be more anchored to the screen.

But a larger center seems to be capturing the attention of a large group of Axiom fans. Maybe it would capture a few more "on the fence" outsiders.

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