Re: Speaker Placement
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Got a chuckle out of that one....
It's funny because it's true.
As for the measuring...it's still fiancee for now, but she's had to hold the end of the measuring tape to help get all of this stuff set up in the past
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Re: Speaker Placement (one math method)
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Hmm...
In case anybody is interested in how the heck the Fibonacci sequence, the Golden Ratio, and the Nautilus shell are mathematically related to each other, see this page; especially this section.
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Re: Speaker Placement (one math method)
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Those are some great links.
Explains the theory of the shells quite nicely.
So is there truly order in chaos then?
As biological beings, we can still be broken down into math.
How interesting.
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Re: Speaker Placement
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Say Chess, does the Golden rule take into account ported cabinets, where the port faces the rear ? Or would this have any bearing on the formula ? As I type this, I would guess, all things being equal, no.. Correct ?
LFE ! The rest is just details..
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I doubt that ports do anything to the formula.
After all, it is a 'natural' equation that could be used with any directional sound source and the ports are not designed to produce sound.
However, if you had some dipole speakers in the front, then who knows what kind of sound effect might be produced using the Golden Ratio.
I'm sure someone has tried it.
Again, i doubt there would be a huge difference. One way or another you have to put 2 speakers in front of you at some distance away and apart to create a stereo sound field. With or without a 'formula', this can be achieved but i do believe that symmetry is an important key point.
The Golden Ratio is just an interesting starting point and fun to try if you have the room to tinker. I unfortunately do not.
Here is a link to some info on this setup at the Cardas website (linked from that original Stereophile article).
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Re: Speaker Placement
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A little off on a tangent here, but what would you guys think about putting the M22s upside down, ie tweeter on the bottom? When I get mine (eventually), they're going to go on top of some bookshelves next to my entertainment center (most likely) which are about 4 feet tall. Therefore, if I put them right side up, the tweeter would be way above my ears.
Ken
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Yes, Ken, the M22s can be positioned upside-down, but since the tweeters would still be well above ear-level, you might also want to tilt them downward slightly. Also note that if this puts the midwoofer cones closer to the ceiling than the floor in your room that the distance to the ceiling should be used if you set unequal distances to it and the two nearest walls.
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OK, I need you to go over that last line again... I didn't really get it.
Thanks for the info, though!
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Ken, it's just a variation on my previous reply to Matt, when I pointed out(and astonished Peter)that it's good practice to set the speakers so that the midwoofer cones are different distances from the floor and the 2 nearest walls(e.g. 1, 3 and 5 feet). Where the speakers are so high that the mids are closer to the ceiling than to the floor, the measurement to the ceiling would be used instead.
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Ah, got it. Thanks! (Now I just have to get Axiom to put the badges on upside down!)
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