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#124271 - 01/14/06 11:51 AM Best comment yet on Intel-based Macintoshes
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The first person I met upon entering was Kelly Vaughn, a slim blonde in skin-tight workout duds (who graced The Chronicle's front page this week as part of our and other papers' glowing coverage of Macworld Expo).

Vaughn was helping demonstrate accessories for the iPod that you can use at the gym.

I put it to her directly: Why should anyone get worked up about the prospect of Macs containing Intel chips?

"Oh, it's a really big deal!" Vaughn exclaimed. "I mean, PCs have Intel chips. So this is important, right? It's like the future of computing!"

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/01/14/BUG70GN6MS1.DTL
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#124272 - 01/14/06 12:06 PM Re: Best comment yet on Intel-based Macintoshes
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That's funny, John.

Hopefully the biggest impact will be in the reduction of prices on Macs.
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#124273 - 01/14/06 12:07 PM Re: Best comment yet on Intel-based Macintoshes
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Thanks for that article.
It made me feel a little better about having a new iMac (2 months old) that is already obsolete.
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#124274 - 01/14/06 01:05 PM Re: Best comment yet on Intel-based Macintoshes
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Ain't gonna happen--not with the amount of engineering they put into those things, not to mention the need for R&D money. It would be nice, but...
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#124275 - 01/14/06 01:10 PM Re: Best comment yet on Intel-based Macintoshes
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In a sence the price did drop.
You get a machine that is twice as fast for the same money.
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#124276 - 01/14/06 01:47 PM Re: Best comment yet on Intel-based Macintoshes
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Well, if you drink the Kool Aid. It's interesting that in the iMac they're saying its 2x as fast. Well, it's kind of got 2x as many cores, no? It's a dual processor (for most intents and purposes) while the iMac G5 is a single core, single processor. So the G5 is still kind of holding its own. Add that to the fact that the Core Duo is on a faster bus than the G5... (and yes, I know that dual core does not necessarily = 2x as fast in the real world, but boy howdy it does in marketing materials.)

Love to see some comparos between a Core Duo and a dual core G5 (thanks for such clear marketing names, Intel!) on similar hardware. But man, that ain't gonna happen.
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#124277 - 01/14/06 08:06 PM Re: Best comment yet on Intel-based Macintoshes
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Yeah, right now the comparisons are gonna be tough. Right now, not all of the s/w has been converted to run native on the Intel CPUs, so Rosetta has to be used. I was at the keynote address, pretty cool, man some people treat it like a rock concert... The new OSX provided a "properties" switch that can deactivate the Rosetta option to allow programs to bypass Rosetta. Rosetta does run a little slow, as was shown by Jobs running Adobe Photoshop.

It would be interesting to run apps on both G5 and Macintels to compare. The main reason for going to Intel was power. There was no way then could improve laptop performance because the G5 was TOO hot to run on laptop. Ask all the people w/ burn marks from their current powerbooks. IBM dropped the ball big time w/ their false promises of high perf/low power on the the 970 line. What a waste of a good architecture.

I agree w/ Bray's frustration on the quick release of the iMacs. I would've bought one a few months ago but I knew the MacIntels were coming. I bought a Mac Mini and now I'm bummed that the Intel version will come out. I'll be even more PO'ed if the Mac Mini DVR comes out...


Edited by oldskoolboarder (01/14/06 08:07 PM)

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#124278 - 01/14/06 11:50 PM Re: Best comment yet on Intel-based Macintoshes
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Yea.......but I still would have waited at least 6 months until they had all the bugs worked out, so i'm really not all that bothered about it. I HAD to have one now.... not 8 months from now.
I'm still lovin my new iMac.


Edited by bray (01/14/06 11:52 PM)
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#124279 - 01/15/06 05:06 PM Re: Best comment yet on Intel-based Macintoshes
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The Apple/Mac is just about dead. If it wasn't for the iPod they'd been a whole different situation right now and not for the good either.

Next is OSX on PC's, and MAC Clones. How is OSX going to compete with Windows on clones? MAC's have always been made by and built by apple. They only needed softare drivers for the hardware they put into their own machines. Doesn't get much easier then that. Then only OS stability advantage they have had has been due to the fact that they can focus on supporting the limited hardware they have.

Look at Windows, totally opposite, and they'be been making OS's with larger hardware support for ions. Apple is already 20-30 years behind in hardware support, they just can't compete. Apple sells around 6 million total desktops/laptops per year. MS selling over 150 million OEM Licenses for XP alone per year. The Proof is in the puddin. Let the mac die.

FYI, I work in a large university, and we have MAC's and PC's. I'm in the computer dept and we support both. I don't hate OSX, I actually think it's a neat little OS, but it's so limited I have no purpose for it. Computers are never going to be straight forward until we are all using the same thing. Boring yes. But there needs to be a standard.

Look at your telephone. You don't know how it works right? But your neighbors phone works when you call them right? the joy of a communications standard

What about TV? You turn it on, it works right? We all can get the same channels because there is a broadcasting standing right.

We need a universal standard for a personal computer. To be honest I don't care which one it is, but with the market being so dominated by MS, it only makes sense to go with it.


I can rant about this all day. btw, MACS do indeed crash. I see it all the time.



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#124280 - 01/15/06 06:35 PM Re: Best comment yet on Intel-based Macintoshes
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Just...
just...
get the name right, at least.
It's an Apple Mac or Apple Macintosh.

It's not a MAC.

I'll see your rant and ignore it, 'cause lord knows I've been hearing it for over 20 years now.
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