Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Technical Questions Jane, get me off this crazy thing

The only people that this will not affect are the ones with throw away money, and there are plenty of them. I'm happy with analog and a ctr television. I mean how good do we have to have it anyway?

Is there anything new there? The option to cripple analog outputs has been around for a very long time now.

The good news, I read a report that Sony claims all the movies they release will NOT utilize this so component only HDTV's are safe (for their releases).

My guess is that this won't get used very often because of the bad PR it would receive. If somehow they figure piracy is benefiting from being able to record that analog stream perhaps that woudl change. Hope not.

The only other optismistic thing I can come up with would be if the industry did use this a lot, perhaps it could expose the craziness of how DRM is trappling on our 'fair use' to the point that the masses might actually realize what's going on and give a crap. Right now we are only a tiny minority that pays attention to this issue and many of us don't even fully understand it. (I try to thou )

I'm glad that my only HD device has what they are claiming will be the right mix of digital input and copy protection complient encoding/decoding, but man, oh, man... What a rip! I feel for those with non-"compliant" HDTV sets. You KNOW it will be that one movie that you really want in HD and it WILL be the one that the studio decides to downconvert on analog signals...

Let's see...this is absolutely idiotic because most people copy DVD's on their computers, not through recording through composite cables. There is no reason to do this to the thousands of people with composite imputs on HDTV's when that isn't even covering the base of the largest pirating source.

Software is going to be made (like there is with current DVD's) to rip them on the click of a button.

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Let's see...this is absolutely idiotic because most people copy DVD's on their computers, not through recording through composite cables. There is no reason to do this to the thousands of people with composite imputs on HDTV's when that isn't even covering the base of the largest pirating source.

Software is going to be made (like there is with current DVD's) to rip them on the click of a button.

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You might want to read a little more about how DRM works on next gen DVDs vs current ones because it will be a LOT harder to "crack" this time. And there is a system in place if it gets cracked they can change the code on everythign new being made. (nutshell)

"Hard" is of course relative. Even if the DRM itself on the next-gen discs proves to live up to the hype of how secure it is, there's still the transport to consider. Ed Felten has already demonstrated how HDCP can be cracked. Once that's done, the digital video stream could easily be recorded.

Nice to see the little technical details.

So much for my component and composite video cabling-only to the projector.

At least I have not installed vapour barrier and drywall over the main wiring hub. I stil have a chance to run some way over-price HDMI cable (or will it have to be DVI for Outlaw Audio components?). Maybe it will have to be both. NOT happy about throwing more money out the window!

It seems to me.........the DVD mfg's (of players, AND media)
are going out of their way to "kill" the business, much the way the music industry has with the cd.

I must say though, I don't have much sympathy for "pirates".

Ahrrrg.

This could depend on if you even want one of these HD or Blu-ray players right away. For now my LG upconverting dvd player upconverts over component cables so no need to worry about HDCP for now.