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I wonder what the "break in" time will be for those.
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Re: Looking for comments on bulk 12 gauge speaker
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That depends on whether or not it has been cryogenically treated.
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Re: Looking for comments on bulk 12 gauge speaker
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Monster is the Bose of wiring. They get by on their name alone. There are plenty of better cables-sure they are (at least) a few hundred$ more but they reduce the brightness and increase the soundstage in ways that the monster cables simply cannot do. I've also found that some of the really high end cables 'bleed' less noise over to video and provide a crisper picture, especially for front projection systems.
I'll take placebo effects for 500, Alex.
I've never seen a double blind test proving that the difference between cables is actually audible. Unless you have done so yourself, I challenge your statement.
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Now, I think that certain cables will change the sound. For example, if your cable is poorly designed and is too high a gauge for the distance, you're certainly going to hit resistance and end up with some roll off on the high end--eg less brightness. I've also heard of cables with little capacitors in them. Who knows what this atrocity does to the pure, pure signal. But a regular cable of the appropriate gauge should make no difference to the sound.
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Monster is the Bose of wiring. They get by on their name alone. There are plenty of better cables-sure they are (at least) a few hundred$ more but they reduce the brightness and increase the soundstage in ways that the monster cables simply cannot do. I've also found that some of the really high end cables 'bleed' less noise over to video and provide a crisper picture, especially for front projection systems.
I'll take placebo effects for 500, Alex.
I've never seen a double blind test proving that the difference between cables is actually audible. Unless you have done so yourself, I challenge your statement.
Everything that looks space age is better. That's a fact and you can check it on wikipedia of you want. The equation is simple-goodnees is directly proportionate to space age look. I'm really hoping that alienware starts making cables-they could then spray them with Ferrari paint which is known to be a better insulator than just rubber alone. Space age cables with ferrari paint would not only sound better, but because of the paint the signal would get to the speakers just a little bit faster (less wind resistance through the cable) causing a lighter load on the amp.
Now, you can CAREFULLY read my first post or we can continue this conversation. Your choice, but I think you'll agree that I have the upper hand here.
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Goodness, you certainly have a better sense of humor about it than most people we hit with the double blind test science bit. 
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... the signal would get to the speakers just a little bit faster (less wind resistance through the cable) causing a lighter load on the amp.
Well now, THAT's interesting! Because it means that wireless speakers must put too much of a strain on thier amps because it's ALL AIR they're travelling thru! Signals in wires must travel faster with less wind!? Brillant!
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I thought that it was the Scientology cables that were the best because they eliminated the destructive effects of thetans. Damn you, Xenu!
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Re: Looking for comments on bulk 12 gauge speaker wire
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Trust me there is NO difference in how wire sounds!
NOT ONCE has anyone EVER proven that they can tell a difference between fancy cables or even fancy amplifiers.
The only thing that matters with cables is that you should get a slightly larger wire for longer cable runs, and 12-gauge is thick enough for 30 foot runs.
There are actually cables that cost 10,000 dollars, and you should hear people talk about those.. "smoooooth" "airy" "warm" "soft" blah blah blah - trust me, they only hear this stuff because their brains think they are supposed to sound that way. A blind test would prove they are just dreaming.
btw I use the 12-gauge bulk wire for my rear surrounds and they sound, um, like they are supposed to.
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Re: Looking for comments on bulk 12 gauge speaker wire
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To Axiom's credit, they don't claim their speaker wire sounds any better either. What it does seem to be, based on posts I have seen here, is :
- nice looking
- very flexible, ie it lies flat on the floor rather than twisting up and tripping you
- easy to work with, easy to strip etc...
- less likely to corrode than some of the cheap bulk wire
Last edited by bridgman; 09/01/06 09:16 PM.
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