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John,

I believe that the amps used in the RX-V series are of higher quality. Although the HTR line has the same specs as the RX-V line on some models, I think the RX-V line has a higher quaity build and amps (I am only basing this on "what I have heard".

Thanks John.

To specify what I’m looking for…..

HDMI audio processing, not just switching. I need (want) something that will actually process the new lossless multi channel PCM audio streams off HD/DVD and Blue Ray players. All HDMI 1.1 audio supported receivers are “supposed” to be able to do this, but some just wont. My HK 745 for example is one of them that won’t. Even though HK says it will, it simply will not. Not just mine, but numerous other users have reported this and HK is denying it. I’ve given up on being their test mule as their tech support will not listen and I can’t get an HK engineer on the phone. Nuff said about that I reckon…..

I love the versatility of the HK’s audio set up. The individual channel set up, multiple X-over points, surround mode default settings, etc. Whatever I get has to have that same versatility.

One thing I’d really like to have is an OSD that will overlay onto an HD video stream (720P and higher). The HK will not and I don’t think the Denons will either. I’m not positive, but I believe the Yamaha 2700 will do this. I can not find in its manual any reference that it will not.

I have an external video processor (VP-50), so I do not need any video processing in the receiver or pre / pro. Whatever I get has to have a 1080P video bypass function. Not many will do this.

So far through my studying and reading of manuals, there are NO pre-amp / processors with the functions I’m looking for on the market with the exception of the Anthem D2 and AMV 50. Both of them also have integrated high end video processors and a hefty price tag. I’ve called NAD, Adcom, Lexicon and Rotel. None have what I need. And all of these pre/pro manufacturers all have the same thing to say about HDMI. “HDMI is still broke and we are waiting for the next version of 1.3 before we get serious about incorporating it into our equipment”…. I can’t say I blame them either.

So far, only the 2700 and the 4306 (and higher model demons) have what I’m looking for.

I’m not all that concerned with power as I plan to go with an external amp(s) as needed.

Mike, it appears that you have reached the bleeding edge.

Yea on my denon all aspects of the OSD do not work with all resolutions. I havent completely decoded the manual yet, but the ability to quickly check the status or bump up the volume of a given channel is an overlay, and is restricted to certain resolutions and video input constraints. I have Denon 2807

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One thing I’d really like to have is an OSD that will overlay onto an HD video stream (720P and higher). The HK will not and I don’t think the Denons will either. I’m not positive, but I believe the Yamaha 2700 will do this. I can not find in its manual any reference that it will not.

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Mike, it appears that you have reached the bleeding edge.

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Yah, I know. It wasn't by choice that I'm looking either. I was perfectly content with my HK 7300 which had NO HDMI capabilities. My 'great plan' was to sit back and wait a year or two and then upgrade. When my 7300 committed suicide and HK sent me this 745 ‘replacement’, I was forced into this current dilemma. But seeing how I'm here now, I might as well put my money where I'll have the least amount of buyers remorse that I know I'll inevitably have no matter what I get.....

Etronics has the 4306 for a great price http://www.etronics.com/product.asp?stk_code=denavr4306b it's just that Denon won't honor the warranty because it was sold for less than MSRP. HOWEVER - Etronics has a 3 year extended warranty from MACK for $60 - still a >$500 savings and (I guess) an A-stock item as compared to Dakmart's B-stock WITH Denon warranty.
I ususly get the short end of the stick on things like this, but if the MACK warranty covers all that it says it covers, the difference will pay for a second set of QS8's. Just depends on how one looks at it.

Scott

Robb, everything that I've studied on this point(at least from sources that I consider to be relatively reliable)indicates that the amplification is essentially identical and that the differences are cosmetic and a relatively minor feature or two. In particular, Yamaha addresses this directly and distinctly in one of the informative FAQs here .

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the 4306 (and higher model demons)

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Demonic indeed, Mike, but it may have what you're looking for. If by "multiple X-over points" you mean different frequency points for different speaker groups, the 2700 doesn't do that either.