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#157594 - 02/04/07 12:33 PM Need a new sub. Is Axiom worth it?
Bill3508 Offline
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Registered: 01/14/07
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I need a new sub. The one I have now is an old HSU VTF-2 with the 150wt amp. I love my Axiom speakers I received not too long ago, and would like to get an Axiom sub. However my room is fairly large and I don't know if the EP350 will do the job and the 500 cost a fortune. My room is basically 18x14x14 with an open floor plan.
I don't want too much bass as I don't want to bother the neighbors as I've been on the receiving end of that before. The other options were the VTF3-MK2 or VTF3-MK3 in HSU. For you guys running Axiom subs how do they compare or do you think the extra is worth it?

Bill3508

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#157595 - 02/04/07 12:58 PM Re: Need a new sub. Is Axiom worth it? [Re: Bill3508]
jakewash Offline
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Registered: 12/26/03
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Loc: Calgary, Alberta
You could do no wrong with the HSU and they are cheaper too. Check out anything from Craigsub and on AV123 forum he has quite the thread going for his sub comparisons. Some of it has been posted on here, no time for me to search though. Basically the VTF3Mk3 gets more points from him for a deeper extension and its cheaper than the Axiom.
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#157596 - 02/04/07 02:18 PM Re: Need a new sub. Is Axiom worth it? [Re: jakewash]
Bill3508 Offline
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Registered: 01/14/07
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The EP350 is in the price range, but I really have not found that much info on it, reviews or otherwise. A couple folks returned the 350 for the 500, but for twice the price I'm not sure its worth it. 350 is the only option or go to HSU.

Bill3508

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#157597 - 02/04/07 07:10 PM Re: Need a new sub. Is Axiom worth it? [Re: Bill3508]
PaulM Offline
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Registered: 03/12/05
Posts: 280
Loc: St. Albert, Alberta
Are you looking for a sub to fill out the low frequencies while playing or are you (also) going to use it for producing the LFE's (low frequency effects) while watching movies? If it is primarily for music then the EP350 will probably suit your needs. If you want to experience the big LFE's during movies then I'd get something that goes lower and louder by HSU, SVS or Axiom's EP500. HSU and SVS sell some excellent subs that are somewhat less $ than the EP500.

Paul

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#157598 - 02/04/07 07:16 PM Re: Need a new sub. Is Axiom worth it? [Re: PaulM]
Bill3508 Offline
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Registered: 01/14/07
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Probably 60% movies, 40% music.

Bill3508

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#157599 - 02/04/07 08:39 PM Re: Need a new sub. Is Axiom worth it? [Re: Bill3508]
Parrothead Offline
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Registered: 12/24/03
Posts: 28
What are the thoughts of Rocket UFW-12 Subwoofer compared to EP 500?

David


Edited by Parrothead (02/04/07 08:39 PM)

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#157600 - 02/05/07 12:22 AM Re: Need a new sub. Is Axiom worth it? [Re: Bill3508]
jakewash Offline
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Loc: Calgary, Alberta
I just posted this for someone else and its a listing done by Craigsub and this guy knows his subs.

1. $3200 + (shipping?) JL Audio Fathom 113: 103 points.
2. $4995 + (shipping?) Velodyne DD-18: 100 points.
3. $2150 + (shipping?) ACI Maestro: 97 points.
4. $2200 + (shipping?) JL Audio Fathom 112: 95 points.
5. $999 + ($105 Shipping) Hsu VTF-3 HO + Turbo: 94 points
5a. $899 + ( $80 shipping) Hsu VTF-3 HO w/o Turbo: 92 points
6. $649 + ($75 shipping) VTF-3 Mark III w/o turbo: 91 points
7. $1299 + ( $99 shipping) SVS PB12-Ultra: 90 points.
7T. $1200 + ( $0 shipping included) Axiom EP-500: 90 points
8. $1299 + ( $99 shipping) SVS PB12-Plus/2: 87 points.
9. $599 + ($50+ shipping) PB12-NSD: 86 Points
10. $1099 + ($100 shipping) Rocket UFW-12: 85 points (provisional)
11. $429 + ($50 shipping) SVS PB10-NSD
12. $199 + ($43 shipping) Rocket X-Sub: 78 points
13. $99 + (shipping?) Rocket Tyke: 60 points

The entire thread is here.
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#157601 - 02/05/07 11:04 AM Re: Need a new sub. Is Axiom worth it? [Re: Bill3508]
littleb Offline
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Registered: 08/03/03
Posts: 1235
Loc: Moorhead, Minnesota/US
When I was sub shopping, I was close to pulling the trigger on an Axiom sub, but I ended up with the HSU VTF3 since the company ran a half price shipping promotion during Xmas season 2005. I was looking for something that was better than my JBL PB12, which had become toast, for less than $1K. I found that, and I am happy with the product I purchased so far. I'm sure the Axiom EP 500 looks nicer, though. My black HSU ain't pretty by any stretch of the imagination, but since it is somewhat hidden from view that doesn't bother me.

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#157602 - 02/05/07 12:29 PM Re: Need a new sub. Is Axiom worth it? [Re: littleb]
ctown Offline
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Registered: 01/06/07
Posts: 364
Loc: Calgary, AB
Quote:

My black HSU ain't pretty by any stretch of the imagination, but since it is somewhat hidden from view that doesn't bother me.




I've heard this from a couple others, is the HSU really that ugly or just a plain old black box?

I'm thinking of a VTF2.3 or STF-3, but the SVS cylinder sub kind of interests me. I got an email from SVS where they consider the PB12-NSD to be sonic equivalent to their 20-39PCi cylinder sub. Personally I think the cylinder blends into the room better, so putting it in the mix too.

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#157603 - 02/05/07 12:38 PM Re: Need a new sub. Is Axiom worth it? [Re: ctown]
Wid Offline
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Registered: 06/22/03
Posts: 6789
Loc: The Peoples Republic of Il.

I don't think ugly is the right word. It's just a big black box that's all. Mine, both of them, are in my living room and it no big deal to me.
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