Re: M80 as Center Channel?
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Thanks Kevin,
I have not started a multi channel audio collection yet, so my centre channel requirements are purely for movies at this time. I would say that my movie and music listening is split about 50% each, both are important to me, but it seems easier to get good overall sound during movies than a very good sound during stereo music playback. Movies have obviously different requirements and the emphasis is not on the main front channels, where as is stereo music playback, the main fronts are crucial for really good sound.
I guess what I am saying is that I need a good enough center to get the job done well in movies and I wanted to have a better understanding of the shortcomings of the VP150 in that regards. I do not know how much of a role the center plays in multichannel audio since I am not setup for that from a source point of view.
Acoustic Zen Adagio, Veritas center, Axiom EP500, QS8s, Anthem AVM20, MC20,Adcom GFA7400
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Re: M80 as Center Channel?
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I don't think there is conclusive evidence that the VP150 has shortcomings.
My opinion is that positioning in the room is a very big deal relative to center channel speakers. I mean, that's why they're typically horizontal, right? It's not because that is necessarily "better", it's a compromise relative to real world listening environments. I think 3 identical front speakers is still probably ideal, but I also think it is a mistake to infer that - in all acoustic environments - the VP150 would be somehow suboptimal. Unless you have room to PROPERLY place a bookshelf or floorstander in the literal center position, a speaker specifically designed for alternate placement would be better, no?
I discovered a very meaningful difference moving my VP100 from under to on top of the TV. Don't underestimate the impact of room acoustics.
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Re: M80 as Center Channel?
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Hi Tom,
I totally get what you are saying. I have done extensive position experimentation for a long time trying to get more bass out of my main speakers, I actually joined the forum because of those issues back in Nov 06. After a lot of experimentation and building corner "superchunk" bass traps etc..I've finally come to the conclusion that I need to replace my main fronts, I'm just not going to be happy no matter what try to do to the room and placement etc..So, all of this to get back to the Center channel. I am only asking because of what I have read here on the VP150, so I figured I'd ask more questions on it. I have always had my center channels on top of my tv set and I have no plans to change that for a long time.
Acoustic Zen Adagio, Veritas center, Axiom EP500, QS8s, Anthem AVM20, MC20,Adcom GFA7400
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Re: M80 as Center Channel?
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I discovered a very meaningful difference moving my VP100 from under to on top of the TV. Don't underestimate the impact of room acoustics.
I absolutely agree with Tom.
In my estimation the Axiom VP centers are extremely capable speakers if time is spent with positioning and tweaking. I don't know about most folks but I can only imagine that a good percentage of people did the same as me...spent a lot (I do mean a lot) of time tweaking with placement and dialing in of the mains while not paying too much attention to the center. Several weeks ago I concentrated solely on the VP150 for several hours, including placing an acoustic panel directly behind the center and I'll be darned if I can find the first fault with the 150. Whether it is the placement, the acoustic panel or the way I dialed it in with the receiver, I don't know what single process achieved the most gain but I'm suspecting it was the combination of all that made this speaker really come to life.
I am now a proponent of the VPs as great center channels and will recommend them to anybody for their system.
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Re: M80 as Center Channel?
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I never had a problem with my VP100. I simply set it on top of the TV, must have been lucky, I guess.
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Re: M80 as Center Channel?
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I have to agree, I just propped the 100 up at the back to angle it down from its lofty perch and have had no problems either, but then again I am not a musician nor a true audiophile. I just go for what sounds good to me and place the speakers wherever I can get away with it.
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