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Re: VP150 or two M3s'
axiom_man #160695 03/06/07 12:14 AM
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Center Placement

axiom_man,

Above is a link to the thought process behind the M3 centers.

I think that the M3 is an excellent match for the M80s. I like the sound of the dialog from the M3 more than I like the dialog from the VP150 also, but the purpose was to get the dialog centered on the screen.

It drove me crazy for it to be localized to the speaker. I tried the M3s in WTTW and TWWT both above and below like I tried my VP 150 above and below. In the end I ended up with a TW above and a WT below with each speaker on its side.

No ill effects with the speakers on their sides and I love the sound.

I would love to see a center with 2 tweeters, a 5.25 and a 6.5, but I would still get 2 for above and below in my current setup. In a perfect world a single center would be an M80 behind an AT screen to match the L/R.

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Re: VP150 or two M3s'
axiom_man #160696 03/06/07 03:01 AM
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Troy, if you have 4 M2s and 2 VP100s you have plenty of opportunities to experiment that will give you some idea, although it wouldn't exactly duplicate the result with M3s. For example, try one vertical M2, then one vertical VP100, then two of each in various positions.


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Re: VP150 or two M3s'
axiom_man #160697 03/06/07 03:01 PM
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I think I am going to try the VP150 under the tv and two Mt2's on top tonight.
but I am unsure how I should wire them up.
I would like to do it in Parrallel but, the centre VP is 6ohm and the two M2's are 8ohm making them in parallel 4 ohm.
jeez how do I do three speakers. I think I will try the VP100 also. This I can do in Parallel , but I don't want to screw my amp.


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Re: VP150 or two M3s'
axiom_man #160698 03/06/07 03:11 PM
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I have seen it suggested NOT to connect 2 speakers with different impedences in parallel. I could be wrong.


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Re: VP150 or two M3s'
Hutzal #160699 03/06/07 03:14 PM
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Ok,
wasn't sure so if I test drive tonight it shoul be 2 M2's alone ?
and I am thinking that the M2's have a 5.25" mid so this would/should be a better match for my M80's, whereas the m3's have a 6.25 and most of the dialog comes from the mid's.

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Re: VP150 or two M3s'
axiom_man #160700 03/06/07 03:25 PM
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Most likely it should be the M2s alone. You'd probably melt your amp if you hooked up all 3. (completely unsupported claim.)


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Re: VP150 or two M3s'
Ken.C #160701 03/06/07 03:26 PM
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Quote:

Most likely it should be the M2s alone. You'd probably melt your amp if you hooked up all 3. (completely unsupported claim.)




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Re: VP150 or two M3s'
Hutzal #160702 03/06/07 03:29 PM
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Hell, go with video. That'd probably score some youtube views.


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Re: VP150 or two M3s'
Hutzal #160703 03/06/07 05:43 PM
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I think it's series connection that is usually problematic.

AFAIK the main problem with paralleling speakers with different impedences is that one speaker is usually 8 ohms and the other is usually less, so you end up with <4 ohm effective impedence which only the huge honkin' amps can drive reliably.


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Re: VP150 or two M3s'
bridgman #160704 03/07/07 03:09 AM
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This place is pure evil!!

If one M3 is good for center, then two must be better!!

Here's a hypothetical question.

Say a person happened to have, say...M50s for mains and a single vertical and inverted M3 sitting on top of an....oh, I dunno....65" RPCRT which has no problem hosting the speaker on top, but has no way of supporting a big ol' bulky M3 down below the center of the screen without sticking out way into the center of the room.

...but yet the TV configuration would support a speaker snuggled right on in there in vertical orientation in an indentation of the bodywork in the front of the TV and only stick out about 3-4" in front of the screen; a dimension easily matched by adding a bracket on top of the TV pushing the front of the M3 out a like distance in front of the screen. Yeah; and the M50s too.

....anybody ever hear an M3 and a W3 paralleled together?

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